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Huckabee will lose in a 45 state wipe-out
 
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« on: December 30, 2007, 01:30:06 pm »

So... how bad does the GOP get destroyed in the next election with "The Huckster" at the top of the ticket?
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« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2007, 04:01:35 pm »

Huckacide
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« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2007, 05:54:25 pm »
« Edited: December 30, 2007, 05:55:57 pm by Politico »

I would not underestimate Huckabee. The strength of each Democrat in the general election is truly a question mark, so this may be a race no matter how "weak" the Republican candidate may be in certain areas such as foreign policy experience.

That said, McCain is clearly the most electable Republican, followed closely by Romney.
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« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2007, 06:26:29 pm »

Carlonia? Honeslty? Gosh, use the spellcheck.
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« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2007, 06:32:55 pm »


Honeslty?
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« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2007, 12:30:02 am »
« Edited: December 31, 2007, 01:27:53 am by Tammany Hall Republican »

Fraudster Hucksterbee goes down to a devastating defeat, taking Republican Senators, Congressmen, and Governors down with him.

Another Goldwater debacle.

Huckleberry is a lightweight reyling on the votes of evangelical bigots, a strategy
which will not carry him past Iowa.

He'll need a lot more hucksterbucks than what he has now to compete long term.
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« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2007, 12:51:14 am »

voted WV and VA, although WV wouldn't really be "up-for-grabs," as Huck would lose it handily.  VA would be a tossup / slight lean Democratic.
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« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2007, 01:02:25 am »

wouldn't huck do well in WV? they'd like him for his social conservatism. rudy would lose it because he doesnt have that.
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« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2007, 01:07:27 am »

wouldn't huck do well in WV? they'd like him for his social conservatism. rudy would lose it because he doesnt have that.

abolition of IRS?  national sales tax?
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« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2007, 01:15:21 am »

wouldn't huck do well in WV? they'd like him for his social conservatism. rudy would lose it because he doesnt have that.

Social conservativsm != love of the religious right. Hardcore religious right candidates like Huckabee never do well in WV. Talk to Al about this.

I voted WV, VA (though I agree with Tweed's statements regarding both) and AZ. I stupidly didn't vote for KY as polls show even Hillary is competitive there.
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« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2007, 01:32:18 am »

wouldn't huck do well in WV? they'd like him for his social conservatism. rudy would lose it because he doesnt have that.

Right. I forgot about the flat/fair tax. He'll lose badly there.

abolition of IRS?  national sales tax?
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« Reply #11 on: December 31, 2007, 02:13:24 am »


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« Reply #12 on: December 31, 2007, 10:48:55 am »

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« Reply #13 on: December 31, 2007, 11:15:01 am »

wouldn't huck do well in WV? they'd like him for his social conservatism. rudy would lose it because he doesnt have that.

I agree.  There are enough tongues-speaking, snake-handling Pentecostals and fire-breathing, hellfire Baptists in West Virginia to give Huckabee the state.  Possibly handily.  There's a reason Gore and Kerry both lost West Virginia -- and it's not because Billy Bob like George W. Bush's "populism".

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« Reply #14 on: December 31, 2007, 01:24:28 pm »
« Edited: December 31, 2007, 01:26:10 pm by Supersoulty »

wouldn't huck do well in WV? they'd like him for his social conservatism. rudy would lose it because he doesnt have that.

I agree.  There are enough tongues-speaking, snake-handling Pentecostals and fire-breathing, hellfire Baptists in West Virginia to give Huckabee the state.  Possibly handily.  There's a reason Gore and Kerry both lost West Virginia -- and it's not because Billy Bob like George W. Bush's "populism".



Northern West Virginia is packed with young, centerist professionals, especially around the Morgantown/Clarksburg/Wheeling area.

Plus, I don't think there is any room to grow with the Fundamentalists... I think we pretty much had maximum turnout in 2004.
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« Reply #15 on: December 31, 2007, 01:27:30 pm »

Carlonia.... run by governor Carl I.


Anyway, I agree that W.Viriginia is too socially conservative to vote DEM anymore, unless Guiliani is nominated.

MY question, however, would be...which states will swing when Hick is nominated?
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« Reply #16 on: December 31, 2007, 01:37:40 pm »

If Huck is nominated, Arizona swings before Virginia
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« Reply #17 on: December 31, 2007, 02:13:20 pm »

First, the Republicans aren't crazy enough to nominate Huckabee.

Second, if the Republicans did nominate Huckabee, did he would do worse than McGovern in 1972!

Third, if Huckabee were nominated, Paul would easily crack five per cent of the vote nationwide as the Libertarian party candidate!
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« Reply #18 on: December 31, 2007, 02:16:37 pm »

wouldn't huck do well in WV? they'd like him for his social conservatism. rudy would lose it because he doesnt have that.

I agree.  There are enough tongues-speaking, snake-handling Pentecostals and fire-breathing, hellfire Baptists in West Virginia to give Huckabee the state. Possibly handily.

Do you think those are the swing voters? Those are the rare voters that vote Republican on the local level, and the state is far from Republican there. What soulty said is pretty much correct here.

As explained before, WV may be socially conservative, but it is hardly in love with the religious right.

There's a reason Gore and Kerry both lost West Virginia -- and it's not because Billy Bob like George W. Bush's "populism".

In the case of Gore it had to do with him getting written off as an anti-gun and anti-coal extremist, and in the case of Kerry campaigning on all the wrong issues and completely neglecting and abusing the local party machinery, Al can say a lot on this. The bottom line though is it's pretty dumb to expect every election to be like 2000-2004 until the end of time.
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« Reply #19 on: January 01, 2008, 02:37:31 pm »

wouldn't huck do well in WV? they'd like him for his social conservatism. rudy would lose it because he doesnt have that.

I agree.  There are enough tongues-speaking, snake-handling Pentecostals and fire-breathing, hellfire Baptists in West Virginia to give Huckabee the state. Possibly handily.

Do you think those are the swing voters? Those are the rare voters that vote Republican on the local level, and the state is far from Republican there. What soulty said is pretty much correct here.

As explained before, WV may be socially conservative, but it is hardly in love with the religious right.

There's a reason Gore and Kerry both lost West Virginia -- and it's not because Billy Bob like George W. Bush's "populism".

In the case of Gore it had to do with him getting written off as an anti-gun and anti-coal extremist, and in the case of Kerry campaigning on all the wrong issues and completely neglecting and abusing the local party machinery, Al can say a lot on this. The bottom line though is it's pretty dumb to expect every election to be like 2000-2004 until the end of time.

You are probably right.... but how can change be made?
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« Reply #20 on: January 01, 2008, 03:53:27 pm »

Uh, by it being a different election with a different situation and different candidates?
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« Reply #21 on: January 01, 2008, 04:24:43 pm »

Uh, by it being a different election with a different situation and different candidates?

I understand what you are saying, but HOW could it be different? 2000 and 2004 were different, yet had the same conclusion. Could you give me some substantiation and hypos?
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« Reply #22 on: January 01, 2008, 08:05:10 pm »

First, the Republicans aren't crazy enough to nominate Huckabee.

Second, if the Republicans did nominate Huckabee, did he would do worse than McGovern in 1972!

Third, if Huckabee were nominated, Paul would easily crack five per cent of the vote nationwide as the Libertarian party candidate!

If Huckabee were to be nominated, I except Bloomberg will throw his hat in the race, split the moderate Republicans and religious Republicans, add in a few Democrats, and we'd see a Democratic landslide.
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« Reply #23 on: January 02, 2008, 07:23:45 pm »

Mike Huckabee v Generic Democrat



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« Reply #24 on: January 02, 2008, 07:26:37 pm »

I love how now so many believe WV has become such a GOP stronghold that it's even safer than states where Bush even got a higher percentage.
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