The Atlasia Concealed Firearm Act of 2004

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Upon the passage of this bill:

1. Any Atlasian citizen who registers with the government may carry a concealed handgun no larger than 9mm.

2. The Atlasia government shall institute a 10-20 Life law to prosecute those who commit gun crimes.Click Here to read the real law.

3. If any Atlaisan citizen uses a concealed handgun in self defense it must be proven by a court of law. If it is ruled that they weren’t acting in self defense they will be charged based on the 10-20-Life Law.

If you wish to add to this bill I am open to suggestions! Let the debate begin!



This bill was proposed before me by MasterJedi

[ilikeverin]

*you know the drill*

[7,052,770]

I am opposed to this act; there's no reason for anyone to have to carry a concealed firearm.

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I am opposed to this act; there's no reason for anyone to have to carry a concealed firearm.

Harry and verin,

You won't even consider 10-20-Life or did you not even read it?

[ilikeverin]

We should have that anyway.

[7,052,770]

We should have that anyway.

We should have that law, yet still not allow concealed weapons.

[ilikeverin]

We should have that anyway.

We should have that law, yet still not allow concealed weapons.

Exactly

[MasterJedi]

I encourage every Atlasian Senator to vote to pass this bill!

[Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon]

I strongly endorse this legislation and encourage my District 4 Senator to change his mind

[7,052,770]

Why would anyone ever need to carry on concealed weapon?  If you must have one, why must you conceal it?

[Akno21]

Under this bill, if the weapon is cleared with the government, I could bring it into a mall, a supermarket, a football game, etc, am I correct?

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Under this bill, if the weapon is cleared with the government, I could bring it into a mall, a supermarket, a football game, etc, am I correct?

I would see no argument against it unless a particular establishment banned firearms from their property.

[MasterJedi]

If I might add a little change: all weapons will be held for you when you enter government buildings such as: white house, pentagon, banks, etc.

[JohnFKennedy]

Wehn you say "held when you enter government buildings", do you mean they must be held and not concealed or that they should be allowed in government buildings.

[MasterJedi]

I meant that when you enter government buildings you will have to turn them over to security officals until you leave the buidling.

[Akno21]

Under this bill, if the weapon is cleared with the government, I could bring it into a mall, a supermarket, a football game, etc, am I correct?

I would see no argument against it unless a particular establishment banned firearms from their property.

At a football game of 60,000, you think safety would be improved if more, possibly drunk or otherwise crazed, people would have the capability to kill?

[??????????]

Under this bill, if the weapon is cleared with the government, I could bring it into a mall, a supermarket, a football game, etc, am I correct?

I would see no argument against it unless a particular establishment banned firearms from their property.

At a football game of 60,000, you think safety would be improved if more, possibly drunk or otherwise crazed, people would have the capability to kill?

I would trust that most stadiums would ban them. Again read my above response.

[JohnFKennedy]

I ment that when you enter government buildings you will have to turn them over to security officals until you leave the buidling.

Ok, but surely the government should only hold jurisdiction in this region in government buildings, surely on private property it should be the owner's choice whether or not to let them in and only on government property should the government legislate. I thought that was what states was saying when he said the establishments should be able to ban firearms.

So, where does this law actually allow you to carry a concealed fire-arm?

[Akno21]

Under this bill, if the weapon is cleared with the government, I could bring it into a mall, a supermarket, a football game, etc, am I correct?

I would see no argument against it unless a particular establishment banned firearms from their property.

At a football game of 60,000, you think safety would be improved if more, possibly drunk or otherwise crazed, people would have the capability to kill?

I would trust that most stadiums would ban them. Again read my above response.

Ok, so no guns at football games. Good. But if I walk through a public park, theoretically, 50 people could be pointing a gun at me?

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Under this bill, if the weapon is cleared with the government, I could bring it into a mall, a supermarket, a football game, etc, am I correct?

I would see no argument against it unless a particular establishment banned firearms from their property.

At a football game of 60,000, you think safety would be improved if more, possibly drunk or otherwise crazed, people would have the capability to kill?

I would trust that most stadiums would ban them. Again read my above response.

Ok, so no guns at football games. Good. But if I walk through a public park, theoretically, 50 people could be pointing a gun at me?

Obviously you didn't read the 10-20-Life link.

[Akno21]

Under this bill, if the weapon is cleared with the government, I could bring it into a mall, a supermarket, a football game, etc, am I correct?

I would see no argument against it unless a particular establishment banned firearms from their property.

At a football game of 60,000, you think safety would be improved if more, possibly drunk or otherwise crazed, people would have the capability to kill?

I would trust that most stadiums would ban them. Again read my above response.

Ok, so no guns at football games. Good. But if I walk through a public park, theoretically, 50 people could be pointing a gun at me?

Obviously you didn't read the 10-20-Life link.

I have read it. Still, the odds that I'm voting for this are very slim.

[MasterJedi]

I think StatesRights is editing it but:

You can carry a gun anywhere you want unless the place bans the use of firearms. You can have one on the street or anywhere else. Not in government buildings and not in places that ban them.

Basically it's for protection on the streets and at night in public.

[KEmperor]

If I might add a little change: all weapons will be held for you when you enter government buildings such as: white house, pentagon, banks, etc.

A bank isn't a government building.  Nevertheless, I'm sure they would ban them from the premises.

[JohnFKennedy]

I think StatesRights is editing it but:

You can carry a gun anywhere you want unless the place bans the use of firearms. You can have one on the street or anywhere else. Not in government buildings and not in places that ban them.

Basically it's for protection on the streets and at night in public.

Ok, well, I will consider voting for this but I personally think this should be left up to the different regions to decide.

[7,052,770]

Criminals don't care about the 10-20-Life rule.  If they're gonna kill someone, they will.  Making concealed guns legal for them is only going to drive up the crime rate.  I will absolutely vote no on this bill.