Hillary Clinton = Richard Nixon?

[Michael Z]

Lots of people draw the comparison between Obama and JFK due to his youthfulness and optimistic rhetoric; some are even inclined to compare him to Reagan, not because of his policial views, but due to his oratory skills and ability to draw in people from other parts of the political spectrum ("Reagan Democrats" versus "Obama Republicans").

However, what about Hillary Clinton? As far as ex-Presidents go, I hate to say that the more I look at her, the more she strikes me as another Richard Nixon. She shares his brooding, Machiavellian tendencies, this tendency not merely to do anything to get into power and keep it, but also in the ways Nixon went out to completely destroy his opponents. This sheer, vindictive hatred for anyone who dares to go up against him - I see the same when I look at Hillary and the way her campaign is mercilessly gunning for Obama, doing anything it takes to undermine his candidacy, be it lying, alluding to race, smearing him. Anything for her to win the nomination. No doubt she'll do the same to McCain or Huckabee or whoever happens to win the Republican vote.

Character flaws aside, there is also the historical analogy between Vietnam and Iraq and Nixon 68 and Clinton 08, and I suspect that once Clinton is in power she would adopt a policy similar to Nixon's "Peace with honor"-strategy by slowly withdrawing troops, as opposed to doing so in an immediate stroke; but that's neither here nor there.

I'll leave any question whether a Hillary Clinton administration would be as maligned and scandal-ridden as Nixon's up for debate.

So there you have it, a race between JFK mkII and Nixon mkII. A fair conclusion?

[Tetro Kornbluth]

And John McCain = Hubert Humphrey if that is correct. Actually there are some similiarties...

[Person Man]

This is a very reasonable comparison and Nixon and Clinton had very reasonable ways of dealing with their respective wars.

[JSojourner]

Let's wait and see Hillary debate Mitt Romney.  If he looks all young, handsome and cool under fire...and she dabs sweat from her high forhead, it could be an extremely apt comparison.

But would Obama be Alger Hiss?  And is Socks the cat the equivalent of Checkers?

[Sam Spade]

This is a very reasonable comparison and Nixon and Clinton had very reasonable ways of dealing with their respective wars.

Correct, Nixon escalated his conflict for about 3 years after he went into office.

[MarkWarner08]

McCain= Nixon. They both narrowly lost races for the Presidency eight years prior to their second try for that same office. Hillary= Hubert. They both supported an unpopular war and defeated insurgent liberals in order to the win the nomination.

[MarkWarner08]

But would Obama be Alger Hiss?  And is Socks the cat the equivalent of Checkers?

I think you're going a little too far with those analogies...

[JSojourner]

But would Obama be Alger Hiss?  And is Socks the cat the equivalent of Checkers?

I think you're going a little too far with those analogies...

LOL!!!!

I suppose.  And Bill Clinton as Pat Nixon is just plain unfair to either of them.  Though she DID play the saxaphone...

[Person Man]

This is a very reasonable comparison and Nixon and Clinton had very reasonable ways of dealing with their respective wars.

Correct, Nixon escalated his conflict for about 3 years after he went into office.

Yes, but we already had our escalation.

[Padfoot]

But would Obama be Alger Hiss?  And is Socks the cat the equivalent of Checkers?

I think you're going a little too far with those analogies...

LOL!!!!

I suppose.  And Bill Clinton as Pat Nixon is just plain unfair to either of them.  Though she DID play the saxaphone...

Plus the Clintons ditched Socks after leaving the White House.  They pawned the poor critter off on some former secretary because it didn't get along with their stupid new dog Buddy.  And that my friends, is why I support Socks the cat in my sig.

[Sam Spade]

This is a very reasonable comparison and Nixon and Clinton had very reasonable ways of dealing with their respective wars.

Correct, Nixon escalated his conflict for about 3 years after he went into office.

Yes, but we already had our escalation.

Huh, what do you call what LBJ did in Vietnam b/w 1964-1968?

[Stranger in a strange land]

This is a very reasonable comparison and Nixon and Clinton had very reasonable ways of dealing with their respective wars.

Correct, Nixon escalated his conflict for about 3 years after he went into office.

Yes, but we already had our escalation.

Huh, what do you call what LBJ did in Vietnam b/w 1964-1968?

I think what "escalation" refers to here is his bombings and incrusions into Cambodia and Laos. The Iraq analogue would be, I guess, bombing Iran. In which case, God help us all.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

2 Clintons = 1 Nixon

[elcorazon]

Hillary = Ted Kennedy

supported by staunch democrats, has a strong following, very divisive, half of the party views them as either immoral, undeserving (got there thru family connections rather than own abilities), and/or unelectable.  Kennedy's runs for president in 76 and 80 are reminiscent of Hillary's current run. He seemed like he ought to win, but ultimately the people couldn't actually support the guy.

[Person Man]

Hillary = Ted Kennedy

supported by staunch democrats, has a strong following, very divisive, half of the party views them as either immoral, undeserving (got there thru family connections rather than own abilities), and/or unelectable.  Kennedy's runs for president in 76 and 80 are reminiscent of Hillary's current run. He seemed like he ought to win, but ultimately the people couldn't actually support the guy.

...or an Al Smith or Michael Dukakis. Someone that was sort of shoved down people's throats and the only reason that the Dems survived was because the victor was just so bad.

[P.J. McDuff]

Clinton: Dukakis works for me actually. Except letting her in an armoured vehicle may not be advisable.