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« Reply #50 on: August 12, 2008, 01:58:23 PM »

     I have mixed feelings about Judaism. Most people I know that are Christian or Muslim I consider to be good friends. As far as Jews go, half of them are good friends & half of them are blood enemies.

     As far as the religion itself goes, I have no real opinion about it. One of the advantages of being Atheistic. Wink
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« Reply #51 on: August 12, 2008, 04:20:53 PM »

Positive overall. But I still personally think they missed the proverbial boat.

And I still think you guys jumped the proverbial gun.
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« Reply #52 on: August 12, 2008, 04:23:40 PM »

Positive overall. But I still personally think they missed the proverbial boat.

And I still think you guys jumped the proverbial gun.

     & I still think both of you guys are on the proverbial wild goose chase.
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« Reply #53 on: August 21, 2008, 11:38:30 PM »

Positive overall. But I still personally think they missed the proverbial boat.

And I still think you guys jumped the proverbial gun.

     & I still think both of you guys are on the proverbial wild goose chase.

So say you.
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« Reply #54 on: August 21, 2008, 11:45:30 PM »

Question:

A friend of mine and myself passed by this Jewish temple in my neighborhood, once.  I'm fairly certain they are Conservative.  She wanted to go in and take a look, but I didn't think that was such a good idea.  She said that she couldn't see why they would mind us going in to look at the place, after all, she reasoned, Catholic Churches allow don't mind.

Me knowing that that's not exactly the way the world works again stated that I didn't know what the custom was and thought it would be a bad idea for us to just pop in.

Any thoughts?
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« Reply #55 on: August 21, 2008, 11:55:43 PM »

Question:

A friend of mine and myself passed by this Jewish temple in my neighborhood, once.  I'm fairly certain they are Conservative.  She wanted to go in and take a look, but I didn't think that was such a good idea.  She said that she couldn't see why they would mind us going in to look at the place, after all, she reasoned, Catholic Churches allow don't mind.

Me knowing that that's not exactly the way the world works again stated that I didn't know what the custom was and thought it would be a bad idea for us to just pop in.

Any thoughts?

As far as I know, they wouldn't have minded, although if you entered the Sanctuary, they may have required you to wear a Kippah, and if it was Orthodox, you and your friend would've had to be on the opposite sides of the room (since services are gender split).
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« Reply #56 on: August 22, 2008, 12:08:06 AM »

Question:

A friend of mine and myself passed by this Jewish temple in my neighborhood, once.  I'm fairly certain they are Conservative.  She wanted to go in and take a look, but I didn't think that was such a good idea.  She said that she couldn't see why they would mind us going in to look at the place, after all, she reasoned, Catholic Churches allow don't mind.

Me knowing that that's not exactly the way the world works again stated that I didn't know what the custom was and thought it would be a bad idea for us to just pop in.

Any thoughts?

As far as I know, they wouldn't have minded, although if you entered the Sanctuary, they may have required you to wear a Kippah, and if it was Orthodox, you and your friend would've had to be on the opposite sides of the room (since services are gender split).

Thank you.
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« Reply #57 on: August 22, 2008, 12:09:38 AM »

Question:

A friend of mine and myself passed by this Jewish temple in my neighborhood, once.  I'm fairly certain they are Conservative.  She wanted to go in and take a look, but I didn't think that was such a good idea.  She said that she couldn't see why they would mind us going in to look at the place, after all, she reasoned, Catholic Churches allow don't mind.

Me knowing that that's not exactly the way the world works again stated that I didn't know what the custom was and thought it would be a bad idea for us to just pop in.

Any thoughts?

As far as I know, they wouldn't have minded, although if you entered the Sanctuary, they may have required you to wear a Kippah, and if it was Orthodox, you and your friend would've had to be on the opposite sides of the room (since services are gender split).

Thank you.

Anytime Smiley
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« Reply #58 on: August 22, 2008, 12:17:17 AM »

As Ben said, they would probably make you wear a head covering in the Sanctuary, but otherwise, Temples/Synagogues tend to be very open as long as you aren't obviously dangerous.  I wouldn't suggest popping into an Orthodox one, just because you'd stand out so thoroughly and the Orthodox tend to be a pretty insular bunch, but Reform and Conservative congregations are usually not only willing but eager to interface with the outside world.  After all, those are the branches of Judaism that value blending in with the Gentile world and take great pains to avoid seeming alien or unwelcoming.
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« Reply #59 on: August 22, 2008, 12:22:10 AM »
« Edited: August 22, 2008, 12:24:16 AM by Supersoulty »

It might not have helped that I had just eaten bacon and cheese before we passed it.  Smiley

But I ate it at a Jewish owned bagel place... go figure.
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« Reply #60 on: August 22, 2008, 12:33:04 AM »

The Venn diagram of Judaism as an ethnicity versus a religion always fascinates me, since I feel the vibes very faintly as an near atheist "WASP." Where does ethnicity and 'tribalism" end and religion begin, or visa versa?
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« Reply #61 on: August 22, 2008, 12:42:07 AM »
« Edited: August 22, 2008, 12:46:23 AM by Ronnie »

If I am a conservative Jew, what am I politically?

Heh

Seriously now, I am a Jew, but I seem like I practice less of my religion every day.  I used to go to Shabbat services every day, but now I just go to Temple on high holidays.  Keeping Kosher has been tough for me, but I still do it just because I know I would be letting my family down and would feel extremely guilty if I stopped.

A lot of it has to do with laziness, I say.
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« Reply #62 on: August 22, 2008, 12:48:34 AM »

If I am a conservative Jew, what am I politically?

Heh

Nice joke.

Seriously, though, probably a hawkish socially-and-economically-moderately-liberal Democrat who doesn't want his kids to be gay or his daughter to have an abortion but doesn't want those banned.
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« Reply #63 on: August 22, 2008, 12:53:44 AM »

If I am a conservative Jew, what am I politically?

Heh

Nice joke.

Seriously, though, probably a hawkish socially-and-economically-moderately-liberal Democrat who doesn't want his kids to be gay or his daughter to have an abortion but doesn't want those banned.

Change it to moderately-conservative Republican, and you're right on the money. Wink 
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« Reply #64 on: August 22, 2008, 09:23:51 PM »

Keeping Kosher has been tough for me, but I still do it just because I know I would be letting my family down and would feel extremely guilty if I stopped.

Really? It shouldn't be too hard.
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« Reply #65 on: August 22, 2008, 10:02:04 PM »

Keeping Kosher has been tough for me, but I still do it just because I know I would be letting my family down and would feel extremely guilty if I stopped.

Really? It shouldn't be too hard.

Depends on how strict you are.  My friend doesn't eat shellfish or pork, but she says she can't do the no meat/milk thing, because it's too hard to remember.  There are a lot of laws, so it gets easier the more lax you are.
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« Reply #66 on: August 22, 2008, 11:09:29 PM »
« Edited: August 22, 2008, 11:12:11 PM by The Sargeant of Police »

Keeping Kosher has been tough for me, but I still do it just because I know I would be letting my family down and would feel extremely guilty if I stopped.

Really? It shouldn't be too hard.

Not mixing dairy products and meat in a meal is intense.  My friends who do it have to constantly be on their watch.  A chicken caesar salad isn't kosher!

Also, having to make sure any animal you eat was bled.  That guarantees that you can only be comfortable buying meat from the kosher butcher.

Most people I know who are serious about keeping kosher end up becoming at least functional vegetarians, because it simplifies everything.
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« Reply #67 on: August 22, 2008, 11:17:47 PM »

Keeping Kosher has been tough for me, but I still do it just because I know I would be letting my family down and would feel extremely guilty if I stopped.

Really? It shouldn't be too hard.

Not mixing dairy products and meat in a meal is intense.  My friends who do it have to constantly be on their watch.  A chicken caesar salad isn't kosher!

Also, having to make sure any animal you eat was bled.  That guarantees that you can only be comfortable buying meat from the kosher butcher.

Most people I know who are serious about keeping kosher end up becoming at least functional vegetarians, because it simplifies everything.

Exactly.  And I have to separate my silverware and plates in according to if they are meat or dairy.
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« Reply #68 on: August 22, 2008, 11:25:14 PM »

Keeping Kosher has been tough for me, but I still do it just because I know I would be letting my family down and would feel extremely guilty if I stopped.

Really? It shouldn't be too hard.

Not mixing dairy products and meat in a meal is intense.  My friends who do it have to constantly be on their watch.  A chicken caesar salad isn't kosher!

Also, having to make sure any animal you eat was bled.  That guarantees that you can only be comfortable buying meat from the kosher butcher.

Most people I know who are serious about keeping kosher end up becoming at least functional vegetarians, because it simplifies everything.

Exactly.  And I have to separate my silverware and plates in according to if they are meat or dairy.

My friend tried doing that for a while, but she says the rest of her family, especially her younger sister weren't able to do it.
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« Reply #69 on: August 23, 2008, 12:25:10 AM »

Keeping Kosher has been tough for me, but I still do it just because I know I would be letting my family down and would feel extremely guilty if I stopped.

Really? It shouldn't be too hard.

Not mixing dairy products and meat in a meal is intense.  My friends who do it have to constantly be on their watch.  A chicken caesar salad isn't kosher!

Also, having to make sure any animal you eat was bled.  That guarantees that you can only be comfortable buying meat from the kosher butcher.

Most people I know who are serious about keeping kosher end up becoming at least functional vegetarians, because it simplifies everything.

Exactly.  And I have to separate my silverware and plates in according to if they are meat or dairy.

My friend tried doing that for a while, but she says the rest of her family, especially her younger sister weren't able to do it.

     Ah yes, milk & meat. If I were Jewish, I would convert to something else as soon as possible because of that. I couldn't imagine life without cheeseburgers. Tongue
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« Reply #70 on: August 23, 2008, 12:35:36 AM »

Keeping Kosher has been tough for me, but I still do it just because I know I would be letting my family down and would feel extremely guilty if I stopped.

Really? It shouldn't be too hard.

Not mixing dairy products and meat in a meal is intense.  My friends who do it have to constantly be on their watch.  A chicken caesar salad isn't kosher!

Also, having to make sure any animal you eat was bled.  That guarantees that you can only be comfortable buying meat from the kosher butcher.

Most people I know who are serious about keeping kosher end up becoming at least functional vegetarians, because it simplifies everything.

Exactly.  And I have to separate my silverware and plates in according to if they are meat or dairy.

My friend tried doing that for a while, but she says the rest of her family, especially her younger sister weren't able to do it.

     Ah yes, milk & meat. If I were Jewish, I would convert to something else as soon as possible because of that. I couldn't imagine life without cheeseburgers. Tongue

...Are they good?

*waiting for obvious response*
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« Reply #71 on: August 23, 2008, 12:52:53 AM »

Keeping Kosher has been tough for me, but I still do it just because I know I would be letting my family down and would feel extremely guilty if I stopped.

Really? It shouldn't be too hard.

Not mixing dairy products and meat in a meal is intense.  My friends who do it have to constantly be on their watch.  A chicken caesar salad isn't kosher!

Also, having to make sure any animal you eat was bled.  That guarantees that you can only be comfortable buying meat from the kosher butcher.

Most people I know who are serious about keeping kosher end up becoming at least functional vegetarians, because it simplifies everything.

Exactly.  And I have to separate my silverware and plates in according to if they are meat or dairy.

My friend tried doing that for a while, but she says the rest of her family, especially her younger sister weren't able to do it.

     Ah yes, milk & meat. If I were Jewish, I would convert to something else as soon as possible because of that. I couldn't imagine life without cheeseburgers. Tongue

...Are they good?

*waiting for obvious response*

     . . . Depends on the cheeseburger. Wink
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« Reply #72 on: August 23, 2008, 01:08:24 AM »

Well when you are a jew you are suppose to have a light inside of you and each time you sin the light gets dimmer. And you only have one time of year to0 repent.

If you are a jew but dont exactly follow all the 300 sum laws you are not sinning. Basically as long as you respect your parents and follow the right morals you are a good jew.
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« Reply #73 on: August 23, 2008, 01:10:33 AM »

Well when you are a jew you are suppose to have a light inside of you and each time you sin the light gets dimmer. And you only have one time of year to0 repent.

If you are a jew but dont exactly follow all the 300 sum laws you are not sinning. Basically as long as you respect your parents and follow the right morals you are a good jew.

     What is this time of year that you repent? I know that Atheists repent on April 15. Wink
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« Reply #74 on: August 23, 2008, 01:11:39 AM »

Do you find BLT Bagels ironic?
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