"Wah wah wah caucuses suck" - Hillary supporters

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

http://guerillawomentn.blogspot.com/2008/02/disenfranchising-hillarys-base.html

Walter ain't the only one whining.

[Lief 🗽]

My opinion of feminists has dropped considerably since the start of the primary process.

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My opinion of feminists has dropped considerably since the start of the primary process.

Come on, not every feminist is as bad as the NY NOW. If the NY NOW were Republican plants trying to make them look bad, they'd probably still be more reasonable.

[Keystone Phil]

^^^

And I can't wait until we have to hear it after she secures the nomination.

[perdedor]

The feminists of today are more detrimental to their cause than beneficial. It's sort of sad.

[Gabu]

Um, yeah, caucuses disenfranchise women so much that the Iowa Democratic caucus was 57% female.

What the f**k are they talking about?

[Sam Spade]

You know, if there's one good thing the Bill Clinton administration did - it was killing the feminist movement forever.  The passive-aggressive woman-hating is quite amusing, and the way it should be, frankly.

Otherwise, grow up.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

Um, yeah, caucuses disenfranchise women so much that the Iowa Democratic caucus was 57% female.

What the f**k are they talking about?

Don't you know that Washington hates women? They would never elect one to a statewide office, so of course they weren't going to vote for a woman in a primary.

[Stranger in a strange land]

Um, yeah, caucuses disenfranchise women so much that the Iowa Democratic caucus was 57% female.

What the f**k are they talking about?

Don't you know that Washington hates women? They would never elect one to a statewide office, so of course they weren't going to vote for a woman in a primary.

If you vote against Hillary Clinton, you hate women.

speaking of which, has anyone read this letter by Robin Morgan being cirulated by the Clinton Campaign through Chelsea Clinton, http://www.womensmediacenter.com/ex/020108.html ? It's a shrill 60s-style radical feminist screed which, if you're a man, probably reminds you why you can't stand Hillary Clinton and which speaks volumes about how badly the feminist movement has lost its way.

[JohnnyLongtorso]

I think caucuses suck, but that's because they're convoluted and undemocratic, not because they shut out my candidate.

[7,052,770]

For perhaps completely different reasons, caucuses do suck and need to be abolished.  If nothing else, peer pressure is too strong.

[Јas]

I strongly favour a secret ballot for just about all votes of a potentially contentious nature (which would include selecting party political candidates), where feasible. I understand that different states organise their caucuses differently, and I don't really know which (if any) allow for secret balloting - but if they dom, then I'd probably be okay with them.

However, this comes with the obvious proviso that any and all systems which don't produce Mike Gravel as the Democratic nominee should be abandoned.

[Ban my account ffs!]

^^^

And I can't wait until we have to hear it after she secures the nomination.

I hope you're wrong, as an Obama supporter.. but you're right... we'll never hear the end of it if he loses.

[memphis]

I'm not a Hillary supporter, but caucuses are really long, stupid, and inconvenient. I'd much rather show up at my convenience, vote, and be home in 5 minutes.

[Meeker]

Good. Women shouldn't be allowed to participate.

I say if they aren't in the kitchen, they should be naked.

[Wakie]

Isn't this kind of like Obama supporters getting upset about super delegates?

[Inmate Trump]

Actually, caucuses do "suck."

Primaries and *actual elections* make much better sense for the sake of democracy.  That said, for most of the caucus states that went for Obama, even had they held primaries instead, I still think they would've gone in his favor.  My feelings on why caucuses are, more or less, stupid have nothing to do with how much I dislike Barack Obama.  Just that little disclaimer there, since I'm sure all the Obama lovers out there will, once again, shout me down as just being angry he's winning.

[elcorazon]

I am an Obama supporter, but I think caucuses suck as well.  Ultimately they make it harder to vote, which tends to be a bad thing.  The counter argument, of course, is that those who really are motivated DO show up, but it leaves out too many who can't commit to that time period.  I would prefer we make voting easier not harder.

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

http://guerillawomentn.blogspot.com/2008/02/disenfranchising-hillarys-base.html

Walter ain't the only one whining.

This Obama voter thinks caucuses are one of the most idiotic possible ways to choose a Presidential nominee ever.  Primaries are far better mechanisms.

[jimrtex]

http://guerillawomentn.blogspot.com/2008/02/disenfranchising-hillarys-base.html

Walter ain't the only one whining.

Chapter 29A.56 of the Revised Code of Washington states:

The…presidential nominating caucus system in Washington State is unnecessarily
restrictive of voter participation in that it discriminates against the elderly, the infirm,
women, the disabled, evening workers, and others who are unable to attend caucuses and
therefore unable to fully participate in this most important quadrennial event that occurs in
our democratic system of government.