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True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)
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« on: February 26, 2008, 02:07:44 PM »

Comments on how I see things for the RCA/SCP.

1. Robera

Given the linguistic oriented politics and social conservatism of the province, the province likely has four main parties competitive there with the Ralliement créditiste d'Antillia (Social Credit's Francophone wing) competing with the Parti Radical Democratique for the Francophone vote and the Social Democrats and the Conservatives competing for the Anglophone vote.

2. New Wales

The mining towns are probably contested between the Social Democrats and Labour.  Wellington is probably fairly diverse politically and the remainder of the province is a contest between the Social Credit and Conservatives.  Social Credit strength in New Wales comes from both its Anglophone and Francophone wings.

3. Carnarvon

Social Credit strength there is mostly in the Francophone areas of the north with the Ralliement créditiste d'Antillia and the Parti Radical Democratique competing for the Francophone vote as they do in Roberta.  The south sans Richmond is probably an SDP stronghold with Labour, the Progressive Conservatives, Social Credit, and the Greens taking what they can.  Richmond's suburbs are a contest mainly between the Conservatives and the Social Democrats with either the Radical Democrats or the Progressive Conservatives acting as teh primary third party in the area.  Richmond's core is Labour, Green, and PRD territory.


4. Reginia

Primarily a mix of Social Democrat and Conservatives, the Social Credit Party is present here, but not strong.

5. LeGran

Social Democrats, Labour, Greens vie it out here for the allegiance of the Indian majority, with the Conservatives being the primary party of the small white minority plus some upper class Indians.  This is the only province without a local Social Credit party organization.

6. New Ulster

The rural areas are a Progressive Conservative stronghold that the Social Credit Party would like to overtake. The Social Democrats are the primary party of the Alberton area, with the Conservatives, Social Liberals, and Labour being their opponent depending on the ward.

7. Hesperia

The Conservative and Social Credit parties vie for the rural vote here.  The loggers are staunch Labour supporters.  Victoria is a battleground for the Social Democrats and the Radical Democrats, while Coldwater is a mishmash of everything,

8. North Antillia

The Conservative Party and the Progressive Conservative Party lead here, with the Social Credit and Radical Democrats trying to pick up the less thoroughly conservative elements of Antillia's most conservative province.

9. Arcadia
Ralliement créditiste d'Antillia does well in the rural Francophone areas, competing with the Conservative Party.  A definite mixture of parties in the urban areas.


10. Limeria

As a fairly liberal area, the SDP and the hard left parties dominate, but the Ralliement créditiste d'Antillia does well along the Robera border.

11. Clairive

A Ralliement créditiste d'Antillia stronghold among the long time Francophones, with the local party being almost xenophobic at times about the Portuguese influx and the miners.

Summary

Looking over things, it seems to me that the SCP is a heavily Francophone party that uses its Anglophone wing to gain greater traction in national politics.

Strength is in Robera, New Wales, Carnarvon, Hesperia, North Antillia, Arcadia, and Clairive, with it always having some local offices and seats in the provincial councils. While it is trying to gain strength in Regina, New Ulster, and Limeria, but only rarely wins seats in elections there.  Even with proportional elections, the RCA/SCP doesn't bother trying to contest LeGran.
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True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)
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« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2008, 03:25:51 PM »

From the unified information thread:

Politically Arcadia is diverse with rural areas vascillating between conservatism and rural populism, socialism in manufacturing areas, social democracy in many city centres, and liberalism reigning supreme in many suburban and wealthy areas. All Mountaineers, which means most Arcadians, are stauch supporters of La Francophonie and maintaining a unique culture and language.

The SCP/RCA is a rural conservative populist party that is socially conservative and economically populist.  So I'd have to disagree with your assessment that the RCA couldn't be competitive in rural Arcadia.

I'll grant that as a while the parties that people have put forth are for the most part not very conservative in the social sense, but the info in the UIF indicates that there are considerable areas where social conservatism holds sway.

I'll agree that we're not a party that competes everywhere.  We appeal mainly in areas that that are so solidly socially conservative that the only significant difference between voters is their economic views, in which case we pick up those on the economic left and in areas that are so solidly on the left economically that only social views are important and we gain those who are on the social right.

I see only 7 provinces where the RCA/SCA are assured of always having a seat in the local council/parliament, so I'm hardly asserting we're a dominant party.

I largely agree with Al's map as far as Social Credit strength is concerned, except I think he gave us too much strength in Limeria and not enough in Hesperia.  Of course as a rural party, that map makes us look more powerful than we actually are, since it gives us nice large sparsely populated rural areas to call our own.



As for your dismissive comment about the RCA, I'd like to point out that the historical Social Credit Party of Canada on which I have to some had a similar Anglophone/Francophone wing structure, even splitting for a time which led to their eventual collapse, and that at the Federal level the Quebecers enjoyed more success.
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True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)
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« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2008, 05:56:05 PM »

As for Social Credit, yes I don't see such an ideology already in terminal decline worldwide breaking 10% nationwide. If we are playing this in 1991 with increasing social liberalism throughout the 90's, Social Credit support is likely to decline and the average SC voter age.

I'd have to disagree with that on several points.  First off, the economic policies of the Social Credit movement to a large extent were picked up by others as well, so I wouldn't say that it was in terminal decline.  I'm not aware of any mainstream party that doesn't believe that monetary policy should not be used to establish some desired social good.  Whether the desired outcome is full employment, stable prices, or something else entirely is a different matter.

Secondly, Social conservatism is not a core "social credit" plank, although most of the successful Social Credit movements adopted social conservatism, largely because it reflected the views of the rural populists that were historically most attracted to SoCred.

Finally, Antillia is not in Europe, so a vast increase in social liberalism is not a given.  In North America, India, and Africa, I'd argue that the period of the 1990's was by and large a period of increasing social conservatism.
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