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« on: February 14, 2008, 11:56:11 PM »

A 10 year used his dad's shotgun to shoot his 9 year old sister because she wouldn't give him potato chips.  This isn't even the first time he pulled a gun on someone.....

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/crime/2008/02/14/burkett.sc.child.shot.wbtw
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« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2008, 11:57:43 PM »

BAN GUNS NOW.
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« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2008, 11:58:27 PM »

Shooting someone is an awfully authoritarian thing to do...
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« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2008, 12:26:09 AM »

If leaving a shotgun in an area where a 10 year old can get it it isn't illegal, it clearly should be.
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« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2008, 12:27:29 AM »

If leaving a shotgun in an area where a 10 year old can get it it isn't illegal, it clearly should be.

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This seems like quite a clear case of gross neglect on the part of the parents.
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« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2008, 12:28:45 AM »


That's a little harsh my friend. Guns are a wonderful American tradition and bring many a family together. Just like drugs, guns should be handled responsibly, but I’d not favor the government to tell me if I was able to own one or not. Let's hope however, that the family learned a lesson here.
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« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2008, 12:50:41 AM »


That's a little harsh my friend. Guns are a wonderful American tradition and bring many a family together. Just like drugs, guns should be handled responsibly, but I’d not favor the government to tell me if I was able to own one or not. Let's hope however, that the family learned a lesson here.

Are drugs as wonderful American tradition? That seems rather depressing. It seems stupid that a family should have to learn a lesson like that after their child is shot. I don't understand what is wrong with gun control, at least with shotguns?
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« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2008, 12:52:31 AM »

Right, we need more stabbings damn it!
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« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2008, 01:00:16 AM »


Especially given that horrible murder of that psychologist up in New York. Killed by a meat Cleaver. Should we now ban meat cleavers as well?

And Ottermax, I'm alright with some gun control. Not happy with it, since I dont think it curbs crime and I don't like the goverment telling me what I can and can't own but I'm willing to accept some slight gun control, as long as the states decide it. But when people like the Fuhrer play the "let's ban guns card" I feel I must defend them.

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« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2008, 01:02:41 AM »


Especially given that horrible murder of that psychologist up in New York. Killed by a meat Cleaver. Should we now ban meat cleavers as well?

And Ottermax, I'm alright with some gun control. Not happy with it, since I dont think it curbs crime and I don't like the goverment telling me what I can and can't own but I'm willing to accept some slight gun control, as long as the states decide it. But when people like the Fuhrer play the "let's ban guns card" I feel I must defend them.



I thought he was being sarcastic?

I would hope so...
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« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2008, 01:06:59 AM »


Especially given that horrible murder of that psychologist up in New York. Killed by a meat Cleaver. Should we now ban meat cleavers as well?

And Ottermax, I'm alright with some gun control. Not happy with it, since I dont think it curbs crime and I don't like the goverment telling me what I can and can't own but I'm willing to accept some slight gun control, as long as the states decide it. But when people like the Fuhrer play the "let's ban guns card" I feel I must defend them.



I thought he was being sarcastic?

I would hope so...

Well, he is a socialist and has some pretty leftist ideas on certain other issues.[I believe he's called for a 70 percent tax rate on the Wealthiest Americans] so I took him at his word. Don’t get me wrong, I have amazing respect for Xahar. He’s smarter at 13 then me at 19, in many ways. But I will confess to thinking he has a few kooky ideas. Hopefully he grows a bit more Libertarian with age. He’s already right on most of the social issues.
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« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2008, 01:30:03 AM »

BAN BAD BEHAVIOR NOW
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« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2008, 04:34:31 AM »


No - but the kid needs to be put in jail - even a 10 year old knows that's wrong.  The dad needs to be locked up too for leaving a shotgun around.
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« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2008, 05:06:24 AM »


I really hope you weren't being serious.
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« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2008, 07:06:19 AM »

I'm sure she deserved it.
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« Reply #15 on: February 15, 2008, 08:55:58 AM »

Seriously, why was this gun in a place a 10 year old could get to it?
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« Reply #16 on: February 15, 2008, 09:11:18 AM »

Why was this gun in a house with young children, indeed?
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« Reply #17 on: February 15, 2008, 02:33:30 PM »

Seriously, why was this gun in a place a 10 year old could get to it?
Why was this gun in a house with young children, indeed?

Because the gun crawled into the house and laid itself in a place where it could be easily accessed by this otherwise normal child/family.  And then, when the kid found it, the gun told the kid to shoot his sister.  It's the gun's fault.

GUNS ARE EVIL!!!  BAN GUNS NOW!!!

Has it really not occurred to anyone to ask the question: "Why was this kid so messed up to begin with?"  I grew up around plenty of guns and last I checked I never shot my sister.  Maybe the gun was accessible because the family was screwed up, which woudl explain why this kid is screwed up... oh, but no... it's the gun's fault.
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« Reply #18 on: February 15, 2008, 02:36:31 PM »

Why was this gun in a house with young children, indeed?

That has nothing to do with the problem.
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« Reply #19 on: February 15, 2008, 02:42:20 PM »

As fa as I see it, no gun in house, no gun accidentally in child's possession, no sister shot.

You could argue that he could have found a gun another way, but somehow I doubt that there'd be that much effort put in by the kid.
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« Reply #20 on: February 15, 2008, 02:58:10 PM »

Seriously, why was this gun in a place a 10 year old could get to it?
Why was this gun in a house with young children, indeed?

Because the gun crawled into the house and laid itself in a place where it could be easily accessed by this otherwise normal child/family.  And then, when the kid found it, the gun told the kid to shoot his sister.  It's the gun's fault.

GUNS ARE EVIL!!!  BAN GUNS NOW!!!

Has it really not occurred to anyone to ask the question: "Why was this kid so messed up to begin with?"  I grew up around plenty of guns and last I checked I never shot my sister.  Maybe the gun was accessible because the family was screwed up, which woudl explain why this kid is screwed up... oh, but no... it's the gun's fault.

I never said it was the gun's fault - you should know that given my history on defending the 2nd Amendment. My question is about the responsibility of the gunowner. Those who own guns, especially when they have kids living in or coming into their homes, have a responsibility to store them appropriately to prevent accidents and irresponsible use.
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« Reply #21 on: February 15, 2008, 04:41:52 PM »

As fa as I see it, no gun in house, no gun accidentally in child's possession, no sister shot.

You could argue that he could have found a gun another way, but somehow I doubt that there'd be that much effort put in by the kid.

An accident happens when something can't be prevented.  This could easily have been prevented if the parents had both cared enough to raise their child right and not keep the gun out in the open.

This reminds me of one of my favorite episodes of the X-Files... Clyde Bruckman's Final Repose.  In this episode Mulder and Scully are presented with two psychics.  The first is a murderer who sees himself killing people in the future.  Rather than trying to stop himself from commiting the acts, he seeks answers as to why he is doing it.  The second in Mr. Bruckman, an insurance salesman who can only see things related to death, in both the future and the past.  He hates his "gift", but he is recruited by Mulder to help solve the case.  The killer eventually targets Mr. Bruckman, so he is taken under protect.  Eventually they meet and before he is "going to kill" Mr. Bruckman, he first must ask him why he does the things he does.

Bruckman responds, "You really don't get it, do ya kid?  You do the things you do, because you're a homicidal maniac."

This kid shot his sister because he was a homicidal maniac, not because of the presence of a gun.
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« Reply #22 on: February 15, 2008, 04:42:42 PM »

As fa as I see it, no gun in house, no gun accidentally in child's possession, no sister shot.

No matches in the house, no house on fire, no children burned to death. It applies to many things. These things, while tragic, are very rare and taking guns away (or questioning why they are there to begin with) doesn't help.

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The kid is obviously troubled so what makes you think he wouldn't try to find the gun?
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« Reply #23 on: February 15, 2008, 09:51:09 PM »
« Edited: February 16, 2008, 05:12:31 AM by dead0man »

As fa as I see it, no gun in house, no gun accidentally in child's possession, no sister shot.

You could argue that he could have found a gun another way, but somehow I doubt that there'd be that much effort put in by the kid.
Right, because guns are the only weapon in a home that a nut could get a hold of and seriously harm a family member.
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« Reply #24 on: February 16, 2008, 01:56:09 AM »

As fa as I see it, no gun in house, no gun accidentally in child's possession, no sister shot.

You could argue that he could have found a gun another way, but somehow I doubt that there'd be that much effort put in by the kid.
Right, because guns are the only weapon in a home that a nut could get a hole of and seriously harm a family memeber.

One quick squeeze of a trigger does a lot more damage than one stab.
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