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« on: February 16, 2008, 05:44:43 AM »



If dems did a winner takes all in the states that republicans do, what would the delegate totals be?


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« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2008, 05:47:37 AM »

Obviously Clinton, due to California and New York.
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« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2008, 07:01:49 AM »
« Edited: February 16, 2008, 07:05:59 AM by Mango »

Assuming the total pledged delegates is the same:


Obama: 1190
Clinton: 1075

That doesn't include MI and FL or the superdelegates.


So Obama would have a bigger lead in that case.  (But would be more susceptible to a fall in Ohio and Texas)

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« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2008, 07:13:30 AM »

Assuming the total pledged delegates is the same:


Obama: 1190
Clinton: 1075

That doesn't include MI and FL or the superdelegates.


So Obama would have a bigger lead in that case.  (But would be more susceptible to a fall in Ohio and Texas)



Eh?  Where does Obama pick up all those delegates?  I figured for sure Clinton would have a lead, what with her winning most of the big states.
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« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2008, 07:22:04 AM »

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Lots of small states tend to beat a few big states. Though as I said, were it WTA, Clinton would be in a better position now because of Ohio and Texas. Obama would have to win one of them.
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« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2008, 07:25:00 AM »

The original poster specified that this is only "winner takes all in the states that republicans do".  In other words, if the Republicans don't have winner take all in a state, neither do the Democrats in this scenario.
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« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2008, 08:08:08 AM »
« Edited: February 16, 2008, 08:12:07 AM by Mango »

Ah well, funnily enough TPM Election Central has done the same thing today and come up with slightly different numbers. Where did I give Obama the extra ones, I wonder Huh

Edit: I got ahead of myself and gave him Hawaii and Wisconsin! Oops.

   Delegates
Obama   1,096
Clinton   1,075

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/02/hillary_would_have_benefitted.php#more
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« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2008, 11:07:47 AM »

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2008/02/15/us/politics/20080215_DELEGATES_GRAPHIC.html

Look towards the bottom of the graphic.
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« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2008, 12:33:20 PM »

In a 2-person race, PR actually tends to (effectively) end things more quickly, since it becomes really hard to catch up once you've fallen behind (though I guess the possibility of superdelegates overturning the pledged delegates complicates that somewhat).  With WTA, even if you're far behind, you can make up a lot of ground with just a few 51%-49% wins.
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