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« on: February 18, 2008, 05:30:32 PM »
« edited: February 26, 2008, 11:03:04 PM by Verily »

Electroshock Weapons Restrictions Bill
1. In all areas of federal jurisdiction, the use of electroshock weapons (including, but not limited to, tasers) by law enforcement is hereby prohibited.

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« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2008, 05:31:31 PM »

Prohibited? No. Heavily restricted? Yes.
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« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2008, 05:32:31 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2008, 05:36:58 PM »

I'm against this bill. Tasers ought to be used sparingly, but they should not be eliminated altogether.
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« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2008, 06:38:25 PM »

I oppose this legislation.
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« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2008, 06:43:37 PM »


I shudder to think how many more police killings there would be without tasers.
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« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2008, 08:54:34 PM »


I shudder to think how many more police killings there would be without tasers.
More. I'm fairly sure pre-taser numbers would back me up on that.
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« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2008, 10:00:12 PM »

I have to agree completely with both Jake and Sam in my opposition to this bill. While tasers and other such weaponry can be very dangerous when used improperly they are, by far, much less dangerous than the alternative, deadly force.
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« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2008, 10:38:53 PM »


I shudder to think how many more police killings there would be without tasers.

Just to make myself clear, I'm talking about police killing suspects.
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« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2008, 01:57:37 AM »

Count myself among those opposed.  I recognize the dangers of taser use, but I also recognize that they're much safer for all involved than the alternatives.

As long as police use tasers responsibly, which I believe to be the case in 99.9% of instances, I think it's an appropriate tool in their arsenal.
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« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2008, 05:29:38 PM »

I'd like to echo the previous sentiments against this bill. Yes, sometimes the use of tasers is taken too far, but I'm pretty sure police would resort to handguns too often if they did not have the taser as an alternative.
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« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2008, 12:24:32 PM »

I was going to make an argument about why this is a bad idea, but I see this has already been done. Therefore, I will simply say that I support the arguments of the other senators, and respectfully ask the Senator to withdraw the bill, so as to allow a new piece of legislation to reach the floor.
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« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2008, 05:19:28 PM »

Looks like we have no fewer than 7 opposed.
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« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2008, 05:44:54 PM »

I would like to propose cloture
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« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2008, 05:50:33 PM »
« Edited: February 22, 2008, 05:58:15 PM by Ebowed »

The Pacific Region has not experienced an increase in police brutality since instating its ban on taser use.

In many countries it is unheard of for normal police to be armed with handguns and tasers in the first place.  But I guess the culture of violence always wins out even in the most "liberal" of Senates.
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« Reply #15 on: February 22, 2008, 07:20:07 PM »

The Pacific Region has not experienced an increase in police brutality since instating its ban on taser use.

That is a dishonest assertion at best with no GM.

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A somewhat different debate than the one this bill inspires.
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« Reply #16 on: February 22, 2008, 07:20:34 PM »


We are now voting on a motion for cloture. Please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.
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« Reply #17 on: February 22, 2008, 07:40:58 PM »

aye
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« Reply #18 on: February 22, 2008, 07:41:52 PM »

Nay
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« Reply #19 on: February 22, 2008, 10:27:02 PM »

Aye
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« Reply #20 on: February 22, 2008, 10:36:46 PM »

aye
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« Reply #21 on: February 22, 2008, 10:41:49 PM »
« Edited: February 23, 2008, 09:55:38 PM by Verily »

Forgot to vote... Aye.

Tally on Cloture Motion
Aye: 4 (Sensei; Jake; Speed of Sound; Verily)
Nay: 1 (Ebowed)
Yet to vote: 5 (Afleitch; Bacon King; Friz; Moderate; Sam Spade)
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« Reply #22 on: February 23, 2008, 02:40:36 AM »

Aye.
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« Reply #23 on: February 23, 2008, 05:43:54 AM »

Aye. I have to oppose this bill.
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« Reply #24 on: February 23, 2008, 09:55:22 PM »

Revised Tally on Cloture Motion
Aye: 6 (Sensei; Jake; Speed of Sound; Verily; Moderate; Afleitch)
Nay: 1 (Ebowed)
Yet to vote: 3 (Bacon King; Friz; Sam Spade)
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