Zogby 2000

[The Vorlon]

My problem with Zogby is he makes a ton of assumptions.. and then does not tell you what they are.

He also, imho, steps over the line between polling and prognositication.

For example, if say Charlie Cook said "The Polls show "X" to be ahead by 5%, however "Y" has a really good get out the vote effort so I think the race is actually very close" that is a valid and reasoned OPINION that presents his logic and people can make an informed judgement upon it.

If Zogby thought the same thing, he would just just "juice" turnout for "Y" in his polls and present the race as being tied as a FACT.

Two very different things.

[The Vorlon]

In 2000 he was better than most pollsters
http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=299

Sorry... but you are just plain wrong.

Zogby has missed the margin of error in 20 of his last 45 polls going back to 2000.

In 2000 he missed MOE in 11 out of 31 polls.
In 2002 he missed MOE in 9 out of 14 polls.

These are dead cold facts.

Ignore the spin on his website.  He did 31 polls in 2000.. yes a few were dead on, and a few more close.

Look at the totality of his work.

If I had my cat pick a horse to bet on 45 times I am sure I'd get a few winners... Does this make my cat a racetrack betting expert...?

Just in case ANYBODY has forgotten how truly laughably bad Zogby has been in the last 4 years...

Link to Zogby's 2000 poll results

Link to Zogby's 2002 poll results

I wonder if somebody can FORCE these graphics to be attached to all Zogby polls - maybe the "truth in advertising" laws or  hazardous product labeling or something...?