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The Duke
JohnD.Ford
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« on: August 16, 2004, 05:04:56 PM »
« edited: August 16, 2004, 05:06:19 PM by John Ford »


How can you not understand it?  Its very straightforward.  The anti-war crowd is now putting on a play where killing an elected official is treated as a joke.


So, its Federal Crime to threaten the President's life, you dumb@$$.
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The Duke
JohnD.Ford
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« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2004, 08:38:08 PM »

The following is an abridged version of the conversation we jsut had.

PLAYWRIGHT: I'm going to kill Bush, ha ha ha, just kidding.

CONSERVATIVE: Uh, you know that you just committed a Federal crime, right?

LIBERAL: Come one, you're too uptight about things.
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The Duke
JohnD.Ford
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« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2004, 01:15:59 PM »

The idea is a bunch of idiots want to kill an idiot President. Neither side is portrayed well, and I suppose we'll continue to disagree.

As if killing an diiot president is okay, but if he were smarter you'd be outraged.
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The Duke
JohnD.Ford
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« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2004, 10:16:36 PM »

Nobody has said that they're going to kill Bush.  

I can show that this statement is false.

They're saying:
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Now the word "Gonna" is (according to dictionary.com) informal usage and is a contract of "going to."    The word "President" (again according to dictionary.com) can mean "The chief executive of the United States, serving as both chief of state and chief political executive. "  I know some people don't keep up with these things, but the current President's name is Bush.

So...as far as I can tell what is being said is that they're going to kill Bush.  

Now I do agree that Bush is the problem, but we should not defend these people by telling everyone that they're not saying what they're really saying.  

Nobody has said that they're going to kill Bush because "I'm Gonna Kill the President" is the title of the play, not a quote from any specific person.

I will be performing a piece of performance art during this play called "I Have a Bomb And am Going To Blow Up This Performance Of 'I'm Gonna Kill the President'".  I am sure the producers, performers and audience will howl with laughter at my satiric presentation of a terrorist who stands up in the middle of the play and shouts "I have a bomb and am going to kill us all" before pressing a button on a hand held device.

I certainly expect no one to take me seriously as I practice my Constitutionally protected art.

The play would cease to be satire if the people actually did kill the President.  However, nobody is going to do that.  Nobody is even going to point a model gun at Bush at a joke.  Nobody is even going to do anything to Bush whatsoever because the play is not about killing anybody in real life.  It's a title of a play, not a death threat.  If someone emailed Bush and said "I'm going to kill you", then I would have a problem with that.  However, nobody has done that.  I find it strange how little comprehension people have of the preceding facts.

The whole point of this play was probably to get conservatives jumping up and down yelling "Treason!"  To that end it has succeeded extremely well.

I would like the conservatives who are against this movie to answer the following question.  Suppose the year is currently 1997 and Clinton was in office.  Suppose further that a conservative playwright made this movie at that time.  Would you still be in such opposition to it?

I'd be opposed to someone who made a death threat play about Clinton.

My rules are simple, don't yell bomb in an airport, don't yell fire in a crowded theater, and don't say you're gonna kill the President.  None of this is protected speech.
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The Duke
JohnD.Ford
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« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2004, 10:31:07 PM »

"I'm gonna Kill The President"

-Play Title

Pretty straightforward, I think.
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