Most overrated president

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Lincoln.

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Lincoln

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Everyone is overlooking the obvious. Lincoln.

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I like your spirit, but Lincoln isn't overrated,  He was an SOB who deserved to be shot in 1861 when it would have made a difference, but he was a successful SOB.

I concur with you on that. Booth waited to long. His original plan was to kidnap lincoln in 1863. He almost pulled it off.

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OK, StatesRights, I give up...why is it that you hate Lincoln so much?

Well, I thought we had this debate as to why I dislike this treasonous villian.

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OK, StatesRights, I give up...why is it that you hate Lincoln so much?

Well, I thought we had this debate as to why I dislike this treasonous villian.

If you think I'm following every single post on every thread on this board, you're dillusional.  You probably did speak of this somewhere else, so excuse me for asking.

I apologize, I didn't mean it as an insult. I just thought me and you had debated this. But if we didn't I apologize.

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Bono, your arguments are like saying Thomas Jefferson was a slaveowner, thus he is overrated.

Lincoln will be remembered primarily for his prosecuting the federal side of the civil war and for the emancipation proclamation. All of those other things had no or negligible impact on the nation's history. These two things had a massive impact and are what create the name of Lincoln. Depending on your view of these two events, your view of Lincoln will be shaped.

I was merely arguing that he was a terrible man, who deserved to be killed, someone asked why did we hated him.

I also find it unfair to apply today's politically correct standards to someone who lived even 145 years ago.  Lives have to be judged within the context of the time period in which they lived.

I've tried to do that before here on the forum, yet no one understands and I get labeled "racist" or "bigot".