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« Reply #100 on: March 04, 2008, 07:38:23 pm »
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Interesting regional breakdown in Ohio. Obama leads everywhere except the Northeast, where Clinton cleans up.
Er... isn't the Northeast Cleveland?

EDIT: Nevermind, Cuyahoga County is a separate region in the exit poll.

The northeast is Akron, Youngstown, etc., the heart of the rust belt.
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« Reply #101 on: March 04, 2008, 07:38:37 pm »
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Obama is winning in Cuyahoga County. I wasn't expecting that....

Cleveland has a large black population (obviously) and the county itself has some rather upscale suburban areas mostly (IIRC) east of the city).
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« Reply #102 on: March 04, 2008, 07:39:14 pm »
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Obama is winning in Cuyahoga County. I wasn't expecting that....

Uh, why not? It's Cleveland.
Manufacturing. I thought it would be much closer if he won anyways.

Yeah except the manufacturing workers in Cleveland are mostly black.
I thought it was more mixed....
Oh well, I haven't paying attention as much as I did during Super Tuesday.
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« Reply #103 on: March 04, 2008, 07:39:39 pm »
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Election stealing in Texas.

http://www.click2houston.com/news/15492166/detail.html
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« Reply #104 on: March 04, 2008, 07:40:25 pm »
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Obama is winning in Cuyahoga County. I wasn't expecting that....

Cleveland has a large black population (obviously) and the county itself has some rather upscale suburban areas mostly (IIRC) east of the city).
That makes sense I guess. For some reason I thought the suburbs would be mainly working class, rather than upscale, but I suppose Cleveland still retains its prominence to an extent.
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« Reply #105 on: March 04, 2008, 07:40:39 pm »
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Obama is winning in Cuyahoga County. I wasn't expecting that....

Cleveland has a large black population (obviously) and the county itself has some rather upscale suburban areas mostly (IIRC) east of the city).

OTH, Cleveland is in dire straits from the foreclosure crisis. Shaker Heights, the wealthy suburb you speak of, has huge swathes of the city entirely empty due to foreclosures. I would expect them to fall head over heels for the brainless freezing of interest rates.
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« Reply #106 on: March 04, 2008, 07:41:10 pm »
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Obama is winning in Cuyahoga County. I wasn't expecting that....

Cleveland has a large black population (obviously) and the county itself has some rather upscale suburban areas mostly (IIRC) east of the city).

Aren't there also a good amount of ethnics there (thinking Kucinich's CD).
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« Reply #107 on: March 04, 2008, 07:41:19 pm »
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http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/state/#val=VT

More returns for Vermont.


Obama 818 56% 3
Clinton 597 41% 2

McCain 295 75% 17
Huckabee 53 13% 0
Paul 16 4% 0
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« Reply #108 on: March 04, 2008, 07:42:04 pm »
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Obama is winning in Cuyahoga County. I wasn't expecting that....

Cleveland has a large black population (obviously) and the county itself has some rather upscale suburban areas mostly (IIRC) east of the city).

Aren't there also a good amount of ethnics there (thinking Kucinich's CD).
Oh yeah like the Eastern European Catholics. I would expect them to go for Clinton though.
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« Reply #109 on: March 04, 2008, 07:43:42 pm »
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Manufacturing.

All gone. Most of it anyway. There's a reason why the rust belt is called that.

(actually there are still about 80,000 manufacturing jobs left in that county. But that's nothing on what was the case just a few decades back and about 20,000 less than was the case in 2000).

Yeah except the manufacturing workers in Cleveland are mostly black.

No. Really, really, no.
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« Reply #110 on: March 04, 2008, 07:44:04 pm »
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« Reply #111 on: March 04, 2008, 07:44:51 pm »
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Aren't there also a good amount of ethnics there (thinking Kucinich's CD).

Oui. Will be interesting to see how different the results are in the 10th and 11th CDs.
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« Reply #112 on: March 04, 2008, 07:45:20 pm »
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Crunching the Ohio Exit poll numbers leaves me feeling very good. Obama didn't have to win, he just had to avoid the 55%-44% numbers that the polls were projecting.

He apparently has done that.

We may finally be: "Free at last, free at last, thank GOD ALMIGHTY, we are free at last!"
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« Reply #113 on: March 04, 2008, 07:45:32 pm »
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Manufacturing.

All gone. Most of it anyway. There's a reason why the rust belt is called that.

(actually there are still about 80,000 manufacturing jobs left in that county. But that's nothing on what was the case just a few decades back and about 20,000 less than was the case in 2000).

Yeah except the manufacturing workers in Cleveland are mostly black.

No. Really, really, no.

Well what I meant was that Cleveland is majority black.
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« Reply #114 on: March 04, 2008, 07:46:15 pm »
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Manufacturing.

All gone. Most of it anyway. There's a reason why the rust belt is called that.

(actually there are still about 80,000 manufacturing jobs left in that county. But that's nothing on what was the case just a few decades back and about 20,000 less than was the case in 2000).




Of course but Manufacturing workers have heavy turnout and that is still a big chunk of the county
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« Reply #115 on: March 04, 2008, 07:47:01 pm »
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Crunching the Ohio Exit poll numbers leaves me feeling very good. Obama didn't have to win, he just had to avoid the 55%-44% numbers that the polls were projecting.

He apparently has done that.

We may finally be: "Free at last, free at last, thank GOD ALMIGHTY, we are free at last!"

You do realize that she won't drop out if she wins the state (regardless of the marin), right?
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« Reply #116 on: March 04, 2008, 07:47:26 pm »
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Sounds like Obama may narrowly carry Texas (according to MSNBC's exits anyway)
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« Reply #117 on: March 04, 2008, 07:47:46 pm »
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Aren't there also a good amount of ethnics there (thinking Kucinich's CD).

Oui. Will be interesting to see how different the results are in the 10th and 11th CDs.
Yeah especially to see how Catholic and Orthodox ethnic Eastern Europeans vote, compared to those in MA.
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« Reply #118 on: March 04, 2008, 07:47:58 pm »
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Well what I meant was that Cleveland is majority black.

IIRC Cleveland City isn't even a majority of Cuyahoga county anymore.
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« Reply #119 on: March 04, 2008, 07:48:30 pm »
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Sounds like Obama may narrowly carry Texas (according to MSNBC's exits anyway)

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« Reply #120 on: March 04, 2008, 07:49:17 pm »
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They arent counting votes until Sandusky[sp?] closes....or so they said on MSNBC.
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« Reply #121 on: March 04, 2008, 07:49:51 pm »
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They arent counting votes until Sandusky[sp?] closes....or so they said on MSNBC.

Wouldn't they be counting votes, but not releasing them?
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« Reply #122 on: March 04, 2008, 07:50:06 pm »
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So we're going to be here a while.
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« Reply #123 on: March 04, 2008, 07:50:20 pm »
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Aren't there also a good amount of ethnics there (thinking Kucinich's CD).

Oui. Will be interesting to see how different the results are in the 10th and 11th CDs.
Yeah especially to see how Catholic and Orthodox ethnic Eastern Europeans vote, compared to those in MA.

Or Chicago actually. Some interesting patterns there didst go not noticed.
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« Reply #124 on: March 04, 2008, 07:50:27 pm »
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10 minutes or so from most of Texas primary polls closing.
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