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Shira
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« on: August 19, 2004, 10:32:43 pm »


Compare the two:

http://www.uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/GENERAL/pe2000.gif

Vs.

http://www.adherents.com/maps/map_us_romcath.jpg.

A light reservations:
The first is from 2000 while the second is from 1990.
In the mean time FL became more bluish while TX became brighter.
Does anyone have a more recent one?

The conclusion is unambiguous.



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« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2004, 11:07:42 pm »

Catholics do not vote in a bloc.  The church is too heterogenous to vote that way.  I have said before in other posts.  Catholics are like most other voters, in that, they vote on the issues that are important to them. Hispanic and West Indian Catholics tend to vote Democrat because they agree with their economic and immigration policies.  The church also has its share of single issue voters who would vote for Bush because he is pro-life.
Blue collar union member Catholics tend to vote dem, upper middle class Catholics tend to vote Repub.  I do not see the Catholics as a voting bloc and they haven't been since Kennedy. Most Catholics are from the NE and the Mexican border, I think voting pattern has more to do with geography, economics and party platforms than religion.
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« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2004, 07:04:16 am »


Shira,

I'm not sure why you are so hung up on this topic, but there is no pattern.  Not sure how many times we have to say this.  Trying to force correlations between demographics and voting patterns is merely voodoo statistics.
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« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2004, 07:13:58 am »

Who knows. Shira is crazy...
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« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2004, 07:36:52 am »

Catholics do not vote in a bloc.  

Neither Catholic nor Protestants are voting in a bloc, but what you can see from the map that I brought, is that the heavy catholic states are also heavey Dem states.
There are  differences between the two faithes on two major issues: the death penalty and poverty.
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« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2004, 07:48:48 am »


There are many differences between the Catholics and Pretestants, just as there are between Jewish, Muslims, and non-denominational Christians.  However, most of them believe it is wrong to have an abortion or engage in homosexual activities . . . items which are against the Democratic base.  So again, your argument fails.  Some states just tend to vote one way or another.  It's more to do with the culture than anything else, not demographics such as sex, race, or religion.
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« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2004, 07:49:14 am »

There is a certain correlation - Catholics are more likely to vote Dem than the population at large.
But the link is pretty weak, and in fact it's hard to say at times what is cause and what is effect - ie, do Catholics vote more Dem than the nation because there are so many of them in heavily Dem Southern New England, New York etc or are these states so heavily Dem, at least in part, because they are heavily Catholic?
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« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2004, 08:11:07 am »

do Catholics vote more Dem than the nation because there are so many of them in heavily Dem Southern New England, New York etc or are these states so heavily Dem, at least in part, because they are heavily Catholic?

The first one nowadays (obviously not the case in 1928, but America has, thank God, moved on)
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« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2004, 08:20:29 am »

Catholic were more likely to immigrate to heavy population centers like Boston?

This is combined, of course, with the Hispanic vote.  Two completely seperate groups of Catholics.
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« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2004, 09:10:58 am »

Catholicism isn't anti-death penalty; the current pope is.  There is a big difference.  Theologically, Catholicism does not say the death penalty is wrong.  Culturally, many Catholics including the Pope are against the death penalty.

Theologically, the Catholic Church is viciously against abortion, and you're not supposed to be in the church if you encourage abortion somehow (it's more specific than that, but you get the drift).  A number of Protestant denominations are pro-choice in their official positions.
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« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2004, 08:53:19 pm »

Sigh.....Catholics are not a voting bloc.  I don't have the faintest idea why you think they are.
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« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2004, 09:22:26 pm »

Louisiana is heavily Catholic and voted for Bush. what's your point?
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« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2004, 09:05:28 am »

Louisiana is heavily Catholic and voted for Bush. what's your point?

LA should be compared to AL, MS, GA etc. Bush got in LA  around 5% less then in other Deep South states.
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