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Wiz in Wis
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« on: April 06, 2008, 08:45:13 PM »

New Poll: Pennsylvania President by ARG on 2008-04-06

Summary:
Clinton:
45%
Obama:
45%
Other:
0%
Undecided:
10%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details

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« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2008, 08:51:02 PM »

Sound the alarms! ARG is suddenly accurate! No more ARG jokes!
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« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2008, 08:53:29 PM »

What I wanna know is "who does this doom?"
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« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2008, 08:58:04 PM »

LOL, okay ARG, they're tied in PA but Clinton leads by 9 in Indiana. Sure, right, whatever, go into your corner and face the wall.
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« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2008, 09:03:06 PM »

What I wanna know is "who does this doom?"

This is just like diving by zero... the Earth is moments away from destruction. 
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« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2008, 09:03:45 PM »

Hm. Usually interpreting an ARG poll is easy; one need merely assume the opposite of what the poll says. But when they're both tied? Maybe they're both ahead by 10 points, but in different universes.
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« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2008, 09:06:50 PM »

I think we can safely assume that...

PA will not be close.

(The best I could do with the ARG curse)
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« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2008, 09:07:08 PM »

Hm. Usually interpreting an ARG poll is easy; one need merely assume the opposite of what the poll says. But when they're both tied? Maybe they're both ahead by 10 points, but in different universes.
Or maybe theyre both ahead by 10 points IN THE SAME UNIVERSE. Oh yeah. I...just...blew...your...mind.
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« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2008, 09:14:25 PM »

I think this is just further evidence that they're making up numbers that feel and look right. There's no other explanation for them suddenly having plausible numbers in state after state
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« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2008, 09:18:38 PM »

ARG has been much much better over the last few primaries, but I'll wait for SurveyUSA's latest poll.
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« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2008, 09:21:25 PM »

I think this is just further evidence that they're making up numbers that feel and look right. There's no other explanation for them suddenly having plausible numbers in state after state
Wait, these numbers are plausible now? 45-45 is plausible? Honestly?
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« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2008, 09:52:17 PM »

I think this is just further evidence that they're making up numbers that feel and look right. There's no other explanation for them suddenly having plausible numbers in state after state
Wait, these numbers are plausible now? 45-45 is plausible? Honestly?

To ARG at least. The old ARG would give us a Clinton +20 or Obama +10. Other pollsters have had vaguely similar results to this
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« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2008, 11:15:00 PM »

I'm disappointed with ARG.  They used to be consistently on the wrong side of the polling consensus for every state.  So you'd always know how a given primary would go just by betting against them.  Now they've started copying the results of other polls, so you can't even rely on them to be wrong anymore.  They're now useless.
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« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2008, 11:54:58 PM »

I'm disappointed with ARG.  They used to be consistently on the wrong side of the polling consensus for every state.  So you'd always know how a given primary would go just by betting against them.  Now they've started copying the results of other polls, so you can't even rely on them to be wrong anymore.  They're now useless.

Yes exactly. ARG is now good for absolutely nothing.
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« Reply #14 on: April 06, 2008, 11:57:34 PM »

It will be interesting how the Penn story will play out in the upcoming polls, but yes, there´s a tightening of the race. Clinton's probably still up 5-7 points now.
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« Reply #15 on: April 07, 2008, 01:31:07 AM »

People will pay more money for a "it's tied and the race is close" poll, no?
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« Reply #16 on: April 07, 2008, 01:36:32 AM »

It will be interesting how the Penn story will play out in the upcoming polls

This is a top issue for many Democratic voters. I'd say the importance of Mark Penn is just slightly behind the war and the economy for the Dems that I have spoken to in my area.
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