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« on: April 09, 2008, 04:45:19 pm »

In theory, that'd be kind of odd, considering where Utah sits. It's not just the Mormons in the region that are Republicans. But let's look at the religious demographics of the primary exit poll.

Republicans:

90% Mormon
3% Protestant
3% Catholic
2% Other Christian
2% No Religion

Democrats:

37% Mormon*
24% No Religion
12% Catholic
10% Protestant
10% Other Christian
5% Other Religion
1% Jewish
1% Muslim

*Of which most are no doubt "Jack Mormons", the Mormon equivalent of "cafeteria Catholics", though they make up a much smaller portion of Mormons than the Catholic equivalent does of American Catholics obviously. I heard that the term comes from Jack Daniels, which would make perfect sense.

Rather interesting.
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« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2008, 05:05:26 pm »

According to 2008 exit polls, Mormon vote share by primary:

Democratic: 37%
Republican: 90%

Short answer: Maybe.
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« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2008, 06:04:41 pm »

24% Non-Religious for Democrats surprised me, even for the West.
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« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2008, 06:24:01 pm »

24% Non-Religious for Democrats surprised me, even for the West.

Ex-Mormons. Almost all become Democrats in a state with hardly any Democrats so they make up a fairly large percentage. The surprising thing is that the non-Mormon Christians appear to be so overwhelmingly Democratic.

Utah could be the only state where Christians are more Democratic than non-Christians. Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2008, 07:00:00 pm »

24% Non-Religious for Democrats surprised me, even for the West.

Ex-Mormons. Almost all become Democrats in a state with hardly any Democrats so they make up a fairly large percentage. The surprising thing is that the non-Mormon Christians appear to be so overwhelmingly Democratic.

Utah could be the only state where Christians are more Democratic than non-Christians. Smiley

What makes you think that?  I'm not sure what numbers to calculate to determine it...

Then again, Utah has an unusually Republican non-religious population (Bush hit 1/3), so I guess it's possible.  Still, its Catholics may wreck that a bit (although they are pretty Hispanic?)  There are very few mainline Prots.

Speaking of that, what's with CNN's exit poll saying Utah is 3% white conservative Prot when Mormon was counted as Prot? Huh
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« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2008, 07:19:58 pm »

He's arguing that Mormons aren't Christians.
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« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2008, 07:21:26 pm »

Well, looking strictly at the primary numbers, non-Mormon religious people came pretty close to being more Democratic than non-religious voters. (24D-2R among the non-religious, 39D-8R among the religious). But the non-religious were still more Democratic, even when you include Jews and Muslims with the non-Mormon religious.
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« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2008, 07:45:21 pm »

He's arguing that Mormons aren't Christians.
They aren't.
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« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2008, 12:07:42 am »

Well, looking strictly at the primary numbers, non-Mormon religious people came pretty close to being more Democratic than non-religious voters. (24D-2R among the non-religious, 39D-8R among the religious). But the non-religious were still more Democratic, even when you include Jews and Muslims with the non-Mormon religious.

I didn't say non-religious, I said non-Christian. 22% of Utah Democrats are Christian, only 8% of Utah Republicans. MIGHT also be the case in Idaho though, tough to say.

My favorite part of the CNN exit poll by the way:

Religious Beliefs of Candidate Matter...

Great Deal/Somewhat (41%) - 91% Romney
Not Much/Not At All (59%) - 89% Romney

Yeah f**king right.
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« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2008, 03:11:38 am »


My favorite part of the CNN exit poll by the way:

Religious Beliefs of Candidate Matter...

Great Deal/Somewhat (41%) - 91% Romney
Not Much/Not At All (59%) - 89% Romney

Yeah f**king right.

lol if anyone still needs proof that Americans lie to pollsters....
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« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2008, 11:54:00 am »

Well, looking strictly at the primary numbers, non-Mormon religious people came pretty close to being more Democratic than non-religious voters. (24D-2R among the non-religious, 39D-8R among the religious). But the non-religious were still more Democratic, even when you include Jews and Muslims with the non-Mormon religious.

I didn't say non-religious, I said non-Christian.

I was giving you some leeway. It becomes even less true if you start including Jews and Muslims in with the non-religious.
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« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2008, 09:43:53 pm »

Well, looking strictly at the primary numbers, non-Mormon religious people came pretty close to being more Democratic than non-religious voters. (24D-2R among the non-religious, 39D-8R among the religious). But the non-religious were still more Democratic, even when you include Jews and Muslims with the non-Mormon religious.

I didn't say non-religious, I said non-Christian. 22% of Utah Democrats are Christian, only 8% of Utah Republicans. MIGHT also be the case in Idaho though, tough to say.

I think in Idaho it is true but only to a very small extent. We are probably 50-50 with only Christians, though we probably lean Republican with Christians now.
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« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2008, 09:50:33 pm »

24% Non-Religious for Democrats surprised me, even for the West.

Old post, but whatever. There are tons of non-religious people in the West. I'm not quite sure why more people admit to being non-religious there than elsewhere, but the "cafeteria Catholics" and other essentially non-practicing people actual identify as having no religion in the West but not elsewhere. A plurality of people identify as having no religion in not only Washington and Oregon but also Idaho and Wyoming, and no religion comes a close second to Catholic in Montana.
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« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2008, 07:19:21 pm »

could this be oppositional voting like we see in the deep south, where the democrats are the black party and the republicans are (mostly) the white party?
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« Reply #14 on: June 18, 2008, 03:55:29 pm »

could this be oppositional voting like we see in the deep south, where the democrats are the black party and the republicans are (mostly) the white party?
Yeah it is mainly oppositional voting. The Mormons control almost everything in Utah besides SLC and parts of Summit County. Considering lots of them are religous whackjobs almost everyone else flocks towards the Democrats.
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« Reply #15 on: June 26, 2008, 01:44:54 pm »

Mormons- that's a wierd group. Pegan Arch-Conservatives? Sounds like the Middle-East. What's funny is that Utah DOES look like the Middle-East. Should we consider them the Blond Muslims?
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« Reply #16 on: June 29, 2008, 03:38:14 pm »

So we can treat them like suspected jihadis? Kewl.
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