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« on: April 21, 2008, 12:52:56 PM »

New Poll: North Carolina President by Public Policy Polling on 2008-04-20

Summary:
Obama:
57%
Clinton:
32%
Other:
0%
Undecided:
11%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details

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« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2008, 12:55:19 PM »

If this is true...ouuuuuuuuch.

PPP does seem to be rather Obama-biased lately, though.
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« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2008, 12:56:03 PM »

Don't editorialise. 57-32 tells the more than enough of a story in its own right.
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« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2008, 12:56:58 PM »

FWIW, North Carolina is PPP's state. I'd expect them to know what they're doing here more than anywhere else.
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« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2008, 12:58:30 PM »

He almost has the same amount of support with white voters has Clinton does.
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« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2008, 01:05:52 PM »

Internals:

- Obama +27 among Democrats, +13 among unaffiliated voters
- Obama +17 among women, +36 among men
- Clinton +5 among whites; Obama +73 among blacks, +30 among other races
- Obama leads all age groups: +42 among under-30s, +25 among over-45s, and +24 inbetween
- Obama leads Iraq voters (+45), education (+38), economy (+22), health care (+11), moral values (+1) and other (+55)
- Clinton leads taxes and immigration strongly (probably small samples)

Area codes:

252 (Rocky Mount): Obama +31
336 (Greensboro): Obama +24
704 (Western inc. Charlotte): Obama +30
828 (Metro Charlotte): Clinton +5
910 (Fayetteville): Obama +28
919 (Raleigh): Obama +36
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« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2008, 01:08:27 PM »

I think my point about this being the decisive state might be more clear now...
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« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2008, 01:13:04 PM »

I think my point about this being the decisive state might be more clear now...

More likely Indiana. If he keeps her below 10% tomorrow, wins NC about VA/MD-style and somehow wins IN MO-like, I think the end is near for Clinton ...
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« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2008, 01:50:48 PM »

PPP kind of has a credibility problem as of late. See here.
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« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2008, 01:53:11 PM »

I think my point about this being the decisive state might be more clear now...

More likely Indiana. If he keeps her below 10% tomorrow, wins NC about VA/MD-style and somehow wins IN MO-like, I think the end is near for Clinton ...

I don't think he'll win Indiana though. The demographics are even worse than Ohio. But if he destroys her this badly in NC, IN won't matter.
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« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2008, 02:55:22 PM »

When did Obama buy out PPP?  They've been the ONLY company to have him leading PA.  She've averaging about 7 ahead of him, so that's a net of 10%.  If we factor this into NC, he's only leading by 15% (still a lot), but it'll get more competitive.
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« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2008, 03:03:03 PM »

When did Obama buy out PPP?  They've been the ONLY company to have him leading PA.  She've averaging about 7 ahead of him, so that's a net of 10%.  If we factor this into NC, he's only leading by 15% (still a lot), but it'll get more competitive.

I don't think it will get more competitive, I think it will get less competitve. Clinton will be lucky if she get 35% of the vote.
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« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2008, 05:04:35 PM »

When did Obama buy out PPP?  They've been the ONLY company to have him leading PA.  She've averaging about 7 ahead of him, so that's a net of 10%.  If we factor this into NC, he's only leading by 15% (still a lot), but it'll get more competitive.

I don't think it will get more competitive, I think it will get less competitve. Clinton will be lucky if she get 35% of the vote.

What's your reasoning, just curious?
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« Reply #13 on: April 21, 2008, 05:46:30 PM »

When did Obama buy out PPP?  They've been the ONLY company to have him leading PA.  She've averaging about 7 ahead of him, so that's a net of 10%.  If we factor this into NC, he's only leading by 15% (still a lot), but it'll get more competitive.

I don't think it will get more competitive, I think it will get less competitve. Clinton will be lucky if she get 35% of the vote.

What's your reasoning, just curious?

When was the last time she got out of the 30s in a poll?
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« Reply #14 on: April 21, 2008, 06:31:20 PM »

In a non-ARG poll, back during all that Wright nonsense. Nothing since then that isn't ARG.
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« Reply #15 on: April 21, 2008, 06:39:58 PM »

I'm surprised Hillary wins Charlotte but loses the Triad area. I would've thought Winston Salem would be strongly for Hillary.
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« Reply #16 on: April 21, 2008, 09:20:44 PM »

When did Obama buy out PPP?  They've been the ONLY company to have him leading PA.  She've averaging about 7 ahead of him, so that's a net of 10%.  If we factor this into NC, he's only leading by 15% (still a lot), but it'll get more competitive.

I don't think it will get more competitive, I think it will get less competitve. Clinton will be lucky if she get 35% of the vote.

What's your reasoning, just curious?

When was the last time she got out of the 30s in a poll?

By that same argument, Obama won't do much better than 44% tomorrow - giving Clinton a large boost going into NC.
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« Reply #17 on: April 21, 2008, 11:07:17 PM »

I think I'll wait to see if Obama wins PA by +4.
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« Reply #18 on: April 23, 2008, 08:55:19 AM »

Now, PPP was off by 14 points in PA. 
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« Reply #19 on: April 23, 2008, 02:04:48 PM »

Now, PPP was off by 14 points in PA. 

13 points actually.... and they'll have to be off by a lot more than that for Clinton to have a shot here.
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« Reply #20 on: April 24, 2008, 12:25:40 AM »

Please note that NC is PPP's home state.
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« Reply #21 on: April 24, 2008, 02:10:48 AM »

Please note that NC is PPP's home state.

So, they'll be even more Obama biased?  Just throwing that possibility out there.
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