Official West Virginia Democratic Primary Discussion Thread...

[Flying Dog]

They're all at the Waffle house celebrating Hillary's amazing comeback.

[Eraserhead]

They're all at the Waffle house celebrating Hillary's amazing comeback.

heh heh....

[Beet]

Donna Brazille on CNN, perpetuating the myth that every state except FL & MI complied with the DNC calendar rules....no mention of IA & NH's rulebreaking.

IA & NH both applied for waivers to the DNC and received them.

[Lief 🗽]

Hey. Don't knock Waffle House.

[Aizen]

I'd say it's slow and stupid day in West Virginia but I guess it would be more accurate to say "business as usual".

[Flying Dog]

Hey. Don't knock Waffle House.

I actually really like their Chocolate Chip Waffles.

[Alcon]

1% in

Clinton 58%
Obama 34%

From Raleigh County

[Mr. Morden]

Donna Brazille on CNN, perpetuating the myth that every state except FL & MI complied with the DNC calendar rules....no mention of IA & NH's rulebreaking.

IA & NH both applied for waivers to the DNC and received them.

Yes, but only *after* they'd already moved their contests.  They moved to Jan. 3rd and Jan. 8th respectively, which was earlier than the DNC allowed (the original DNC calendar said they could go on Jan. 14th and Jan. 22nd respectively), and said "We don't care what the DNC says, we're going to vote on Jan. 3 and 8 no matter what."  The DNC gave them a pass in December 2007, after their dates were already locked in.

[Flying Dog]

Reliegh County

[ChrisFromNJ]

The lack of respect for West Virginians here by some so called "progressives", democrats and independents here is pretty maddening.

[exopolitician]

Apparently...

Sen. Obama called Clinton to congratulate her on her victory in West Virginia....but she wasnt there to take the call.


So he left her a message

[Lief 🗽]

The lack of respect for West Virginians here by some so called "progressives", democrats and independents here is pretty maddening.

Yes. I know I was pissed off when Clinton called states like Idaho and Mississippi insignificant or not important or not real states. Let's not do the same, Obama supporters.

[War on Want]

1% in

Clinton 58%
Obama 34%

From Raleigh County

8% Edwards?

[Alcon]

Early Randolph County returns have Obama ahead...enjoy that while it lasts

[Aizen]

Hey. Don't knock Waffle House.

I actually really like their Chocolate Chip Waffles.

Me too actually.


Also, we're finally getting results. About damn time. I was going to have to keep posting West Virginia jokes.

[Flying Dog]

Stop the counting! I like these results.

[ChrisFromNJ]

The lack of respect for West Virginians here by some so called "progressives", democrats and independents here is pretty maddening.

Yes. I know I was pissed off when Clinton called states like Idaho and Mississippi insignificant or not important or not real states. Let's not do the same, Obama supporters.

She never said they were insignificant, unimportant or "not real" states. This is a common strawman created by Obamites and it doesn't excuse the lack of respect for a real good state like WV.

[Joe Biden 2020]

The lack of respect for West Virginians here by some so called "progressives", democrats and independents here is pretty maddening.

Yes. I know I was pissed off when Clinton called states like Idaho and Mississippi insignificant or not important or not real states. Let's not do the same, Obama supporters.

Please!!!!

[Beet]

Donna Brazille on CNN, perpetuating the myth that every state except FL & MI complied with the DNC calendar rules....no mention of IA & NH's rulebreaking.

IA & NH both applied for waivers to the DNC and received them.

Yes, but only *after* they'd already moved their contests.  They moved to Jan. 3rd and Jan. 8th respectively, which was earlier than the DNC allowed (the original DNC calendar said they could go on Jan. 14th and Jan. 22nd respectively), and said "We don't care what the DNC says, we're going to vote on Jan. 3 and 8 no matter what."  The DNC gave them a pass in December 2007, after their dates were already locked in.

Formally the DNC didn't give them a pass until December, but informally, both states had consulted with Dean before making their moves and it was widely understood that they'd be given the pass. Florida was the first to make a move on May 3, and, in order to forestall a chaotic rush, the Rules Committee decided to set an example with Florida.

When Michigan followed in August, they had no choice but to do the same. New Hampshire's constitution requires that its primary be at least one week before any other primary. Therefore they legally had no choice but to move 1 week prior to Michigan to Jan. 8. After consultations with the DNC both NH and IA were allowed to move.

I used to think Dean behaved unfairly, but now I'm not so sure. Which state moved first-- New Hampshire or Michigan?

[J. J.]

Exit polls suggest that if Clinton is the nominee, 19% of her vote will vote for McCain; while if Obama is the nominee, 13% of his vote will vote for McCain

Remember WV is not so much home to the 'Reagan Democrat', it is home to the 'Bush Democrat'

Quite true. Mondale actually performed well in WV compared to most states.

Carter won the state in 1980.

Obama needs to get any closeted super delegates out soon.

Considering that in the last week alone he got 27 of them (overall, the week was +27 Obama, net +1 Clinton), he shouldn't have much difficulty.

He needs more, soon.

If I were a super delegate, undecided or leaning to one or the other, I'd be trying to figure out which candidate would do the least damage to the Party in the Fall.

The best thing to preserve party unity into the convention would be for about 150 super delegates to move to Obama.  That might not be the best move for the Party in the Fall.

[Alcon]

Hey guys, I don't mean to be a big jerk, but maybe you should move this discussion to a new thread...'cause this is kind of a fast-paced thread, and your posts might get buried.

Just an idea

[Flying Dog]

CNN just adjusted their exits. The 60 and over dropped from 39-34%

[Joe Biden 2020]

In my opinion, West Virginia's 5 Electoral Votes are just as vital as California's 55 Electoral Votes.  I believe that about EVERY state, including states that don't have much say like West Virginia, Oklahoma, Nebraska, etc.

[Alcon]

CNN just adjusted their exit poll for some reason

New number is 64.2-31.8

[War on Want]

Edwards is actually pulling 8% so far. If he continues this(doubtfull), could this help Obama get a delegate?