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supersoulty, you're casually ignoring the fact that there are various brave aid organizations in Africa that are doing all they can to spread education about sex and the health benefits of condoms, despite the constants threats and deceitful myths spread out by the Catholic Church about condoms. My heart and good wishes go to all of them, and I occasioanlly send them monetary donations.

The Catholic Church is in a perfect position to also do this, but they do not. This makes them immoral. I do not care one bit what Church doctrine is. if you are in a position to save lives, and you do not do so, you are immoral.

I know your response will probably be 'But the church teaches abstinence instead.' Very well, but that does not account for the myths and propaganda sent out by them against condoms and it does not account for the attacks on anyone who promotes or distributes them.

Why can't the Catholic Church just say, ' it is our doctrine that you should not have sex before marriage and sex is only for procreation, but if you feel compelled to flaunt this doctrine, then please for your own sake, wear a condom.'

Why exactly can't or won't they say that?

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supersoulty, you're casually ignoring the fact that there are various brave aid organizations in Africa that are doing all they can to spread education about sex and the health benefits of condoms, despite the constants threats and deceitful myths spread out by the Catholic Church about condoms. My heart and good wishes go to all of them, and I occasioanlly send them monetary donations.

The Catholic Church is in a perfect position to also do this, but they do not. This makes them immoral. I do not care one bit what Church doctrine is. if you are in a position to save lives, and you do not do so, you are immoral.

I know your response will probably be 'But the church teaches abstinence instead.' Very well, but that does not account for the myths and propaganda sent out by them against condoms and it does not account for the attacks on anyone who promotes or distributes them.

Why can't the Catholic Church just say, ' it is our doctrine that you should not have sex before marriage and sex is only for procreation, but if you feel compelled to flaunt this doctrine, then please for your own sake, wear a condom.'

Why exactly can't or won't they say that?

You think one should always save lives, regardless of circumstances and what is required? I could save a ton of lives if I robbed a little old lady in the street and donated the money to charity, for instance. Is it immoral for me to refrain?

The analogy is false. You're talking about doing something seen as bad for the result of something generally seen as good. The Church is doing something they seem to think is good, with the result of something generally seen as bad.

Maybe if you actively created a major campaign against charities, told people they are useless and that bad things would happen to those who gave money to them...that might be a better analogy.

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That is the nub of my critique. They seem to think that preserving the purity of their doctrine is more important than anything. If they really cared about AIDS, then they would make the statement I said above, ' Our belief is that you abstain from sex from marriage, but if you feel compelled to break this doctrine, then please wear a condom, for your own health.' I know there are some factions of the Catholic Church that wish they would say that, but unfortunately they are in the minority.

As for my statement, I admit is is sweeping. I meant it more rhetorically speaking, than anything. But I don't think it detracts from my argument, as you must admit that there are degrees of responsibility for saving lives. Not telling a deaf person that they're about to get run over is on the highest end, your analogy is on the lowest. As regards the argument we're having, the Church's responsibility is clearly close to the lower end of the scale, but that is not enough for an organization that proposes to be the beacon of moral guidance for a billion people.