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« on: May 31, 2008, 08:44:15 PM »

Does Clinton really believe that if she steals this election away from Obama, she will really win in Nov? Is she that stupid or blind by her own personal gain?
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« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2008, 08:46:40 PM »

Probably not, but she's sticking around for a reason. Besides, Obama still could have a horrible scandal break out, especially if this Michelle Obama whitey rant tape is real.
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« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2008, 08:48:15 PM »

Of course not.  It is all about leverage for her future ambitions. 
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« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2008, 08:57:42 PM »

This should prove to the voters that Clinton don't care about America or our problems, she just cares about her own personal gain.
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« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2008, 09:01:45 PM »

This should prove to the voters that Clinton don't care about America or our problems, she just cares about her own personal gain.

As does almost every politician. You have to have a huge ego to run for President in the first place.
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« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2008, 09:03:50 PM »

This should prove to the voters that Clinton don't care about America or our problems, she just cares about her own personal gain.

As does almost every politician. You have to have a huge ego to run for President in the first place.

Very true.
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« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2008, 09:06:16 PM »

This should prove to the voters that Clinton don't care about America or our problems, she just cares about her own personal gain.

As does almost every politician. You have to have a huge ego to run for President in the first place.

I understand that, but she is always saying, I'm not running from me, I am running for the American people. Well, if she don't drop out next week then she is handing the election to John McCain.
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« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2008, 09:06:29 PM »

Besides, Obama still could have a horrible scandal break out, especially if this Michelle Obama whitey rant tape is real.

If Obama has a huge career ending scandal, Clinton will win the nomination regardless of whether she's already dropped out or not.  Obama withdraws his candidacy, and Clinton restarts her campaign, and only needs to peel off a handful of former Obama delegates in order to win.  So really, there's no reason to hold off on dropping out just for that.
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« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2008, 09:07:38 PM »

This should prove to the voters that Clinton don't care about America or our problems, she just cares about her own personal gain.

As does almost every politician. You have to have a huge ego to run for President in the first place.

I understand that, but she is always saying, I'm not running from me, I am running for the American people. Well, if she don't drop out next week then she is handing the election to John McCain.

It's called political spin. Everyone running for President is running for themselves first and foremost. Obama, McCain, Clinton, and everyone else in the race was running for their own self interests and ambitions, not solely for the good of America.
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« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2008, 09:12:43 PM »

josh, i can not accurately answer the question since you used two different tenses.
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« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2008, 10:29:34 PM »

Whilst in the media, she is trying to portray that she believes she can win (which is very obvious that she cannot), deep down inside Senator Clinton knows that she cannot win the Democratic Nomination in 2008. Why is she running? She never knows when to give up.
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« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2008, 01:39:35 AM »

Ah, my first post on these boards...I was an Edwards supporter turned Clinton supporter who will now support whomever the Democratic nominee is (of course it will be Obama).

I think she personally knows it's 98% likely that she will not win the nomination. However, she is going to stay in until every state/territory votes to better herself for the future or maintain leverage for the VP position.

She knows that there is no point in dropping out now since there are only a few states left and she might as well stay in. I think she'll drop out late next week once most of the Supers have chosen their candidate.

She will then campaign for Obama should she not be the VP nominee and do her best to put on a smile despite how painful she must be feeling inside. I truly do believe that she will be the Senate Majority Leader pretty soon.

Don't worry Obama supporters, she won't take it to the convention.
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« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2008, 01:50:57 AM »

Ah, my first post on these boards...

Welcome! Smiley
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« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2008, 01:56:34 AM »


Thanks! I came to the main site probably around the time of the 2004 election but haven't been back and have never seen the forums. As a poli sci student and an avid fan of politics (hope to one day represent Mass. in some form of public service) I am excited to see a bipartisan site such as this one that has some open minded people. All the other sites i've been to are too vicious if you don't support their preferred candidate.
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« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2008, 08:03:06 AM »


Thanks! I came to the main site probably around the time of the 2004 election but haven't been back and have never seen the forums. As a poli sci student and an avid fan of politics (hope to one day represent Mass. in some form of public service) I am excited to see a bipartisan site such as this one that has some open minded people. All the other sites i've been to are too vicious if you don't support their preferred candidate.

Welcome! So, what made you support Clinton and not Obama after Edwards drop out?
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« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2008, 08:56:12 AM »

I am excited to see a bipartisan site such as this one that has some open minded people. All the other sites i've been to are too vicious if you don't support their preferred candidate.

Give it time... Wink
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« Reply #16 on: June 01, 2008, 01:21:55 PM »


Thanks! I came to the main site probably around the time of the 2004 election but haven't been back and have never seen the forums. As a poli sci student and an avid fan of politics (hope to one day represent Mass. in some form of public service) I am excited to see a bipartisan site such as this one that has some open minded people. All the other sites i've been to are too vicious if you don't support their preferred candidate.

Welcome! So, what made you support Clinton and not Obama after Edwards drop out?

Health Care has always been my most important issue. With the need for it to be Universal. I felt as though both Senator Edwards and Senator Clinton had the best Health Care plans to fit my ideals. Also, after eight years of Bush, I had Bill Clinton remorse haha.

I also honestly have not really bought the whole hope and dreams act that Obama puts on. I think it's a great way to rally support and a great campaign method but I really don't understand what makes him an agent of change moresoe than Hillary, Edwards, Biden, Dodd etc. But, in the end, I will support him as my parties nominee. The last thing I want to see is a McCain presidency with $10 gas, no more abortions, wars with Iran and probably Jamaica, and a whole lot of tax cuts for the wealthy.

Go Dems!
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« Reply #17 on: June 01, 2008, 04:14:10 PM »


Thanks! I came to the main site probably around the time of the 2004 election but haven't been back and have never seen the forums. As a poli sci student and an avid fan of politics (hope to one day represent Mass. in some form of public service) I am excited to see a bipartisan site such as this one that has some open minded people. All the other sites i've been to are too vicious if you don't support their preferred candidate.

Welcome! So, what made you support Clinton and not Obama after Edwards drop out?

Health Care has always been my most important issue. With the need for it to be Universal. I felt as though both Senator Edwards and Senator Clinton had the best Health Care plans to fit my ideals. Also, after eight years of Bush, I had Bill Clinton remorse haha.

I also honestly have not really bought the whole hope and dreams act that Obama puts on. I think it's a great way to rally support and a great campaign method but I really don't understand what makes him an agent of change moresoe than Hillary, Edwards, Biden, Dodd etc. But, in the end, I will support him as my parties nominee. The last thing I want to see is a McCain presidency with $10 gas, no more abortions, wars with Iran and probably Jamaica, and a whole lot of tax cuts for the wealthy.

Go Dems!


Jamaica? Quoi...?
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« Reply #18 on: June 01, 2008, 05:59:51 PM »

Hyperbole, noun, Obvious and intentional exaggeration.
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« Reply #19 on: June 01, 2008, 06:07:47 PM »

Obama should drop out, plain and simple. That he is staying in despite Clinton's overwhelming supremacy, both as a candidate as a human being, is truly troubling. [/sarcasm]
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