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emailking
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« on: May 28, 2008, 05:34:06 PM »

Would Barack Obama be considered for the presidency if he was not black?

Would Barack Obama be Barack Obama if he wasn't black?
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« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2008, 05:42:21 PM »

It would be hard to say that when you have never actually argued anything.  Obama would not be a candidate if he were not black, please try to refute that statement.

Fmr. Sen. DWTL, if you would please explain to me what it would mean for Obama to not be black.
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« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2008, 05:49:23 PM »

It would be hard to say that when you have never actually argued anything.  Obama would not be a candidate if he were not black, please try to refute that statement.

Fmr. Sen. DWTL, if you would please explain to me what it would mean for Obama to not be black.
Yeah, it means if he was white he would not be considered a candidate.

But what does it mean for him to be white? Obviously his dad is black. Who is this person that is somehow Barack Obama but is not black? Does he have ultural ties to Africa? Did he travel around the world growing up? Did he spend time living in Indonesia? Does he go to a predominantly black church? Is he married to Michelle Obama? Please elaborate.
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« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2008, 06:02:25 PM »

But what does it mean for him to be white? Obviously his dad is black. Who is this person that is somehow Barack Obama but is not black? Does he have ultural ties to Africa? Did he travel around the world growing up? Did he spend time living in Indonesia? Does he go to a predominantly black church? Is he married to Michelle Obama? Please elaborate.

Do you even understand the point here Fmr. Sen. DWTL?
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« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2008, 06:12:19 PM »

But what does it mean for him to be white? Obviously his dad is black. Who is this person that is somehow Barack Obama but is not black? Does he have ultural ties to Africa? Did he travel around the world growing up? Did he spend time living in Indonesia? Does he go to a predominantly black church? Is he married to Michelle Obama? Please elaborate.

Do you even understand the point here Fmr. Sen. DWTL?
I don't mean this to be rude, but I have not seen you post before and I am wondering, are you unfamiliar with English or at least American culture?  It was a hypothetical, I am not saying that there is a white Obama out there.  I'm saying Obama is black and that is why he is succesful, hence, if he was not black he would not be concerned for the presidency

The point is that your question, your hypothetical, is null.

It's like asking what's north of the north pole. Sure, it's a hypothetical that there could be a north of the north pole. But there's no way to even attempt a sensible anwer because the question is absurd.

Obama is black. That is the reality. You pose it as a hypothetical, well what if he were white? Well, someone who is white does not have the human experience that he has had as a black person...as a mixed person at that. Being black is a part of who Obama is not just in terms of his skin color but in shaping his entire life. Just as whatever race you are has shaped your entire life and who you are right now.

Is Obama being considered for the Presidency because he is black? Yes. Because being black has made him who he is. People are voting for the man, not his skin. And yes, he is different from any white person who has run for the Presidency.

There's nothing special about being black here. Bush was considered for the Presidency because he was white. Being white made him who he was. Would people have voted for Bush if he was black? The question doesn't even make sense.

Would Barack Obama be considered for the presidency if he was not black? Null question.
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