Dems (and others on the left), do you prefer to "battle" Libertarians or Fundies

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Funnily enough none of those three ideologies have any credibility(? Perhaps the wrong word - followers maybe?) outside the United States.

Libertarianism is just a silly form of US nationalism, however it is silly enough to be attacked while maintaing some sort of credibility which the fundies don't have.

Funny, given that we oppose nationalism. Also, Gully, how can you claim to be an anarchist when you defend the state at almost every opportunity?

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libertarians, easily.

most that ive encountered totally lack any compassion.  most fail to understand that there are people who have life experiences that put them behind.

No, you just ignore libertarian arguments and replace them with the straw men libertarian arguments you make in your head. Contrary to what you think, I do not know one libertarian who wants to kill poor people.

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Fundies definitely.  Libertarianism should be annihilated.

Good to see that you believe in equality before the law.

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Funnily enough none of those three ideologies have any credibility(? Perhaps the wrong word - followers maybe?) outside the United States.

Libertarianism is just a silly form of US nationalism, however it is silly enough to be attacked while maintaing some sort of credibility which the fundies don't have.

Funny, given that we oppose nationalism. Also, Gully, how can you claim to be an anarchist when you defend the state at almost every opportunity?

Most libertarians tend to invoke the "founding fathers" and the "Constitution" as an arguement and believe that the US has been corrupted in recent times by "Big government" and often by association "Socialists". How is that not nationalism? Especially when considering that rugged individualism and hatred of central authority have always been "American" traits and that libertarianism has very little following outside the US.

Also I never claimed I was an Anarchist. Rather I am sympathetic towards certain branches of Anarchism. However, I don't think I have ever defended the state, at least not for the purposes of defending the state.

Unlike many libertarians, I personally would have opposed the Constitution if I were alive at that time. Nationalism is a collectivist concept that you duty in life is to serve the greater good (your country). Individualism and nationalism are inherently contradictory ideas. Hatred of central authority is also incompatable with nationalism, since nationalists want everybody to serve a central authority.

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I realize that dead0man and Dibble have already taken the time to dismantle your arguments, but I have nothing better to do:

Wiki claims a lot more "factions" in the GOP. cite  But most of them overlap with big three above.  I'm just curious.  I always assumed the left would be friendlier with Libertarians than they would be with Fundies and other more "traditional" Republicans, but recently I've seen a LOT of anti-Libertarian posts.  Culminating with the thread in U.S. GP where left leaning posters are hammering Libertarians and praising Fundies.  I could have sworn that you guys have been bemoaning the Fundies as the worst thing since Hitler for the past 7 years or so, has Ron Paul scared you?  I have a theory or two as to why this is, but I'll wait and see how this turns out.

In my personal opinion, Libertarianism is a far more dangerous ideology than politicized religious fundamentalism (though I of course oppose both).  This is mainly because Libertarianism's infantile grasp on government and its role in society manages to capture the imagination of many intelligent and talented people, something that politicized religious fundamentalism, for the most part, cannot do.

Infantile grasp on government? All we realize is tht people should be free to live their lives as they see fit so long as they don't hurt anyone else. Is massive government intervention really needed to fulfill that?

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Yeah, that Bridge to Nowhere really revitalized the 50-person community.

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Seriously? You think that the NEA and PBS/NPR have done more to enlighten Americans that websites, universities, or news? You must be joking.

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And when that organization has an over 70% customer dissatisfaction rating and is $9 trillion in debt, that organization should be taken out of its misery, so its employees can actually find a job that serves the community efficiently, rather than stealing money, counterfeiting money, stealing medication, invading foreign nations, driving out competition, etc.