Official DNC RBC Committee Discussion over MI and FL

[Ronnie]

It's going to be really hard to find a compromise that both Obama and Hillary would feel comfortable with.  It will be very interesting to see how this plays out.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Did he just say the Clinton campaign accepts a 73-55 split? Isnt that acceptable for Obama?

yep

[Meeker]

Did he just say the Clinton campaign accepts a 73-55 split? Isnt that acceptable for Obama?

No. Obama wants a 64-64 split

[ChrisFromNJ]

Let me ask a question: Why should non-voters have rights?

[Meeker]

Donna Brazile is a massive freedom fighter as well.

[Sbane]

Did he just say the Clinton campaign accepts a 73-55 split? Isnt that acceptable for Obama?

No. Obama wants a 64-64 split

Like it really matters. He will win regardless and it doesnt hurt to show you are compromising.

[J. J.]

Did he just say the Clinton campaign accepts a 73-55 split? Isnt that acceptable for Obama?

Yes, he did.  Obama is blowing it badly.

[Conan]

Donna Brazile is a massive freedom fighter as well.

If by freedom fighter you mean fighting against freedom then yes. She doesn't want Michigan's votes to count.

[Flying Dog]

Donna Brazile is a massive freedom fighter as well.

If by freedom fighter you mean fighting against freedom then yes. She doesn't want Michigan's votes to count.

Don't talk, please.

[Flying Dog]

These guys make me want to be sedated.

[Conan]

These guys make me want to be sedated.

Donna Brazile is a massive freedom fighter as well.

If by freedom fighter you mean fighting against freedom then yes. She doesn't want Michigan's votes to count.

Don't talk, please.

Would you care to explain how I am wrong? It appears you would like to disenfranchise the 2.3 million people who voted in both swing states important to democrats winning the white house?

Also, there is nothing to suggest that somehow a disproportionate amount of Obama supporters stayed home than did Clinton supporters. That point is ridiculous.

[Alcon]

Why is it that all the Clinton call-in people have Russian accents?

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Why is it that all the Clinton call-in people have Russian accents?

Because Clinton is really the Manchurian candidate

[Stranger in a strange land]

These guys make me want to be sedated.

Donna Brazile is a massive freedom fighter as well.

If by freedom fighter you mean fighting against freedom then yes. She doesn't want Michigan's votes to count.

Don't talk, please.

Would you care to explain how I am wrong? It appears you would like to disenfranchise the 2.3 million people who voted in both swing states important to democrats winning the white house?

Also, there is nothing to suggest that somehow a disproportionate amount of Obama supporters stayed home than did Clinton supporters. That point is ridiculous.

I don't know how anyone could consider Michigan to have been a legitimate election: Obama wasn't even on the ballot.

[emailking]

I don't know how anyone could consider Michigan to have been a legitimate election: Obama wasn't even on the ballot.

Because he willingly took his name off of course.

[Conan]

These guys make me want to be sedated.

Donna Brazile is a massive freedom fighter as well.

If by freedom fighter you mean fighting against freedom then yes. She doesn't want Michigan's votes to count.

Don't talk, please.

Would you care to explain how I am wrong? It appears you would like to disenfranchise the 2.3 million people who voted in both swing states important to democrats winning the white house?

Also, there is nothing to suggest that somehow a disproportionate amount of Obama supporters stayed home than did Clinton supporters. That point is ridiculous.

I don't know how anyone could consider Michigan to have been a legitimate election: Obama wasn't even on the ballot.

And they are considering giving him the uncommitteds. So he's gonna get extra votes, now. So I really don't see what you're complainging about.

[Mr. Morden]

I don't know how anyone could consider Michigan to have been a legitimate election: Obama wasn't even on the ballot.

Because he willingly took his name off of course.

Because it was a non-binding "beauty contest" not recognized as allocating delegates by the DNC.

[emailking]

I don't know how anyone could consider Michigan to have been a legitimate election: Obama wasn't even on the ballot.

Because he willingly took his name off of course.

Because it was a non-binding "beauty contest" not recognized as allocating delegates by the DNC.

That's fine, but the DNC doesn't run Michigan elections. It was a perfectly legitimate election--internal to Michigan--for determining delegates to the Michigan caucuses. Michigan let Obama on the ballot and never told him he had to take his name off.

[Mr. Morden]

I don't know how anyone could consider Michigan to have been a legitimate election: Obama wasn't even on the ballot.

Because he willingly took his name off of course.

Because it was a non-binding "beauty contest" not recognized as allocating delegates by the DNC.

That's fine, but the DNC doesn't run Michigan elections. It was a perfectly legitimate election--internal to Michigan--for determining delegates to the Michigan caucuses. Michigan let Obama on the ballot and never told him he had to take his name off.

It's not really internal to Michigan in this sense: The point of the primary is to allocate delegates to the Democratic National Convention (though yes, I'm aware there's also an intermediate step).  The DNC does in fact control how many delegates each state is allowed to send to the convention.  At the time this vote was held, the DNC maintained that Michigan would not be allowed to have any delegates at the convention.

So Obama can hardly be "faulted" for taking his name off the ballot.  It goes completely against all standards of a free and fair election to then retroactively say that the vote counted after it's already been held.  How would we react if Chavez held a nonbinding referendum on his rule in Venezuela, and then, after the result is known and he's won, say "Oh, I guess that actually did count after all"?

[J. J.]

Why is it that all the Clinton call-in people have Russian accents?

Because Clinton is really the Manchurian candidate

Ah, wouldn't that be the Siberian cabinet.

[YRABNNRM]

Hey, remember when Hillary herself said that the elections in MI and FL weren't legitimate?

[Franzl]

Hey, remember when Hillary herself said that the elections in MI and FL weren't legitimate?

Yes, but she must have had a change of heart

[Lincoln Republican]

Hey, remember when Hillary herself said that the elections in MI and FL weren't legitimate?

Yes, but she must have had a change of heart

No, she had a change of inevitability.

[Mr. Morden]

Hey, remember when Hillary herself said that the elections in MI and FL weren't legitimate?

Yes, but she must have had a change of heart

No, she had a change of inevitability.

No, she had a change of "the states that I had been pandering to have now already voted".

[Conan]

I don't know how anyone could consider Michigan to have been a legitimate election: Obama wasn't even on the ballot.

Because he willingly took his name off of course.

Because it was a non-binding "beauty contest" not recognized as allocating delegates by the DNC.

This was a state sanctioned election. It was a race Obama conceded because he knew he had no chance of winning it either way.