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« Reply #175 on: June 01, 2008, 09:01:38 PM »

Today's winner is Michael Barone, who predicted separately that:

* Puerto Rico turnout would hit 1 million (3/2/2008)
* All 55 delegates, and 8 superdelegates, would go to the same candidate (2/6/2008)
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« Reply #176 on: June 01, 2008, 09:03:15 PM »

Where the hell did that completely baseless "Puerto Rico is winner take all" rumor come from anyway?
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« Reply #177 on: June 01, 2008, 09:05:05 PM »

We better get better exit polling from MT & SD.

Exit polling was fine (and has been for a lot of elections in a row, now).  It was the polling that sucked, and that was mostly because of a bad turnout model.

That's not what I meant by that (my fault). I want more info.
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« Reply #178 on: June 01, 2008, 09:05:48 PM »

In his defense, I'm sure a number of people, back in early February, thought that Puerto Rico's delegates would all go to one candidate, though probably for different reasons.
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« Reply #179 on: June 01, 2008, 09:06:48 PM »

In his defense, I'm sure a number of people, back in early February, thought that Puerto Rico's delegates would all go to one candidate, though probably for different reasons.

It's not hard to look up the DNC delegate allocation rules before writing something publicly.
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« Reply #180 on: June 01, 2008, 09:08:17 PM »

In his defense, I'm sure a number of people, back in early February, thought that Puerto Rico's delegates would all go to one candidate, though probably for different reasons.

It's not hard to look up the DNC delegate allocation rules before writing something publicly.
Did he actually say it would be winner-take-all? If so, he's an idiot.

But, what I was trying to say was, I'm sure most back in February thought that by Puerto Rico we'd have a nominee and that nominee would win all the island's delegates and super-delegates.
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« Reply #181 on: June 01, 2008, 09:08:47 PM »


Your post has a fatal flaw.  Michael Barone is indefensible

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« Reply #182 on: June 01, 2008, 09:09:15 PM »

Today's winner is Michael Barone, who predicted separately that:

* Puerto Rico turnout would hit 1 million (3/2/2008)
* All 55 delegates, and 8 superdelegates, would go to the same candidate (2/6/2008)

LOL Michael Barone is a total Clinton hack. You gotta wonder if he is on the payroll.
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« Reply #183 on: June 01, 2008, 09:14:13 PM »

I was thinking the same thing today.  I really like the Almanac of US Politics, but Michael Barone is really sloppy for thinking PR was going to be a kingmaker.  His analysis all year seems to be bad.

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« Reply #184 on: June 01, 2008, 09:14:19 PM »
« Edited: June 01, 2008, 09:30:44 PM by Torie »

Today's winner is Michael Barone, who predicted separately that:

* Puerto Rico turnout would hit 1 million (3/2/2008)
* All 55 delegates, and 8 superdelegates, would go to the same candidate (2/6/2008)

LOL Michael Barone is a total Clinton hack. You gotta wonder if he is on the payroll.

It might be the rules changed. I think at some point, PR went to a primary from a caucus. Barone is NOT an idiot.
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« Reply #185 on: June 01, 2008, 09:15:17 PM »

In his defense, I'm sure a number of people, back in early February, thought that Puerto Rico's delegates would all go to one candidate, though probably for different reasons.

It's not hard to look up the DNC delegate allocation rules before writing something publicly.
Did he actually say it would be winner-take-all? If so, he's an idiot.

But, what I was trying to say was, I'm sure most back in February thought that by Puerto Rico we'd have a nominee and that nominee would win all the island's delegates and super-delegates.

Ah true. However that's not what he was talking about in one candidate taking all the delegates.
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« Reply #186 on: June 01, 2008, 09:15:31 PM »

The rules didn't change other than the shift from caucus to primary. That shift itself was really just a formality to cope with higher projected turnout as the "caucus" was designed as an all-day caucus with no need to stay, as in Minnesota and New Mexico. Of course, given how low turnout actually was, the change was clearly unnecessary.
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« Reply #187 on: June 01, 2008, 09:18:50 PM »

Barone's article was probably the worst written piece all year. 

I did love CNN's General Election "Analysis" with Roberts pressing every damn state, well this state could go this state could go, ah well ugh Hillary could also win Colorado , and Obama cant win Ohio so ugh Virignia, ugh .

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« Reply #188 on: June 01, 2008, 09:36:46 PM »

Wow, WTF was Barone thinking? I can't even begin to figure it out
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