Puerto Rico Democratic primary results discussion thread

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Worth briefing yourself with:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0608/10733.html

Also, CNN's exit poll might be hilarious because of U.S./Puerto Rico demographic difference stuff like this:

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Yes, in Puerto Rico, that's the affluent vote

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CNN is helpfully reminding us every few minutes that Puerto Ricans are Americans.  Not immigrants -- Americans!

Have you ever lived in the mainland U.S.?  Yes 57%, No 43%
"Yes" voters are more likely to support Clinton

Do you have any family members living in New York?  Yes 78%, No 22%

Bill Clinton has a high favorability

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Top issue: 60% economy, 25% Iraq, 12% health care

How do you feel about Iraq war?  Approve 16%, disapprove 82%

Turnout, as predicted, is not especially high

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I wonder which of the two positions; statehood or commonwealth is the most prevalent position among Puerto Ricans

Commonwealth status has narrowly defeated statehood several times running, but it all depends on turnout.

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Bush approval:

Favorable 39%
Unfavorable 59%

I wonder if Puerto Ricans overall approve of Bush?  I never knew the ending of bombing in Vieques had that much effect.

Bill Clinton approval:

Favorable 83%
Unfavorable 15%

John Roberts is a poorman's John King.   

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CNN is going to have a map

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/state/#PR

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Reports of Mayor- induced voter problems from Carolina now...

Any details?  I have no idea of the significance of that offhand

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Interestingly, the PPD (Clinton-endorsing party) is strongest in San Juan and the college town I can't spell...normally Obama's best demographics.  I wonder how that will play.

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I think I got those backwards, then

Candidates' visits:

Very important 78%
Somewhat important 14%
Others 8%

Decided in the last week:

Clinton 67%
Obama 33%

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Income:
$15,000 or more  - 53%
Less than $15,000 - 47%

Church attendance:
Weekly 47%
Occasionally 41%
Never 10%

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"Wide margin" win for Clinton

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Crappiest polls EVER

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Interesting how the electorate was 52% male, and there was no gender split whatsoever.

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Obama also did better among those without a college degree than with...wtf Puerto Rico.

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Obama also did better among those without a college degree than with...wtf Puerto Rico.

Given the enormous number of liars (54% with college degrees!?), I don't think we can take anything from that.

Haha, true.  Based on the 2000 bachelor degree rate being 21%, maybe around half of those are liars.

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CNN says 325,000 to 425,000

Even the high-end of that comes in under the low-end of most pre-election estimates.

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Terry McAuliffe:  "Every poll shows Clinton beating McCain, and Obama losing to McCain"

Bulls**t.

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Arecibo 027, the precinct that just reported with 29 votes, has a registration of like 200.

So, yeah, stellar turnout there.

Another precinct, this one in Mayaguez, has delivered 79-42 for Clinton.

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They've adjusted the exit polls, and Blitzer and Schneider just gave some excuse about them that they could be wrong or something.

They were talking about the New Hampshire exit polling being correct while pre-election polling was wrong.

CNN has done their standard post-close tweak (I still don't understand why they do that) to 69-31 Clinton.

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The Mayaguez precinct is San Sebastian, nowhere near the university.

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but aren't indepedents and republican eligible to vote in this?

Yes, because Puerto Rico doesn't have Democrats and Republicans.

Obama has carried his first precinct, Villalba, 19-8, unless that's a typo.

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People are still voting on some parts of the Island.

Hour-long lines? 

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People are still voting on some parts of the Island.

Hour-long lines? 

Do you think that just means poor organization, or is turnout really higher than we think?

I have no logical explanation for a huge last-minute surge in turnout whatsoever...I would say that it's probably good news for Obama percentage-wise and good news for Clinton net vote-wise.

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Looking these places up on Wikipedia, every municipality in Puerto Rico seems to have its own anthem.  That's awesome.  I wish we had that.

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Looking these places up on Wikipedia, every municipality in Puerto Rico seems to have its own anthem.  That's awesome.  I wish we had that.

What would the anthem of Berkeley, California  be I wonder?

I don't know, but I hope it involves the homeless guy who threatened to kill me on Sacramento Street.  A true American patriot.