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« Reply #2875 on: December 20, 2011, 11:03:17 PM »
« edited: December 21, 2011, 09:56:45 PM by Ogre Mage »

Publicola interviewed Gov. Gregoire.  It covers a wide range of topics -- taxes, the budget, OWS, medical marijuana, gay marriage, education, Inslee/McKenna and her legacy.

Pt. 1 -- http://publicola.com/2011/12/19/publicola-qa-with-gov-gregoire-pt-1/

Pt. 2 -- http://publicola.com/2011/12/20/publicola-qa-with-gov-gregoire-pt-2/

Pt. 3 -- http://publicola.com/2011/12/21/publicola-qa-with-gov-gregoire-pt-3/


edited to add Part 3.
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« Reply #2876 on: December 21, 2011, 02:13:22 AM »

Stan Flemming isn't actually African-American, even if he looks it; he's (adopted) South Asian.
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« Reply #2877 on: December 21, 2011, 05:36:11 AM »

Publicola interviewed Gov. Gregoire.  It covers a wide range of topics -- taxes, the budget, OWS, medical marijuana, gay marriage, education, Inslee/McKenna and her legacy.

Pt. 1 -- http://publicola.com/2011/12/19/publicola-qa-with-gov-gregoire-pt-1/

Pt. 2 -- http://publicola.com/2011/12/20/publicola-qa-with-gov-gregoire-pt-2/

Wow I kinda feel bad for her having to deal with such a down economy/budget and having voters reject some good proposals at the ballot

And why does she seem so hesitant to just flat out say she supports gay marriage?

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It's not like it would hurt her to openly support it.
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« Reply #2878 on: December 21, 2011, 07:13:44 AM »
« Edited: December 21, 2011, 07:25:00 AM by Meeker »

Stan Flemming isn't actually African-American, even if he looks it; he's (adopted) South Asian.

Wow. Literally everyone I talk to in U.P. has told me he's African-American. Interesting.

EDIT: This article is hilarious, mostly because of how crazy Lorna Smith is: http://universityplace.patch.com/articles/was-university-place-s-first-mayor-african-american
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« Reply #2879 on: December 21, 2011, 11:56:09 AM »

Stan Flemming isn't actually African-American, even if he looks it; he's (adopted) South Asian.

Wow. Literally everyone I talk to in U.P. has told me he's African-American. Interesting.

EDIT: This article is hilarious, mostly because of how crazy Lorna Smith is: http://universityplace.patch.com/articles/was-university-place-s-first-mayor-african-american
Lol, why does she even care!?
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« Reply #2880 on: December 28, 2011, 02:28:36 PM »
« Edited: December 28, 2011, 02:34:41 PM by Alcon »

http://www.redistricting.wa.gov/assets/maps/122811_drafts/C-GC_2.0_Big_Map_Statewide.pdf

Can't see the damn thing because of the terrible lines, but:

1st
Interior part of North Sound plus Bothell, Kirkland, Redmond and the Gold Coast.  Seems like Lean Dem, although not that strongly.

2nd
Coastal areas of North Sound from Mountlake Terrace-Lynnwood to Bellingham.  Dem.

3rd
Can't get the main map to load, but it's the Republican district we all expected.

4th, 5th
whatever.  Republican.

6th
West, North and South Tacoma; most of Mason County; all of Grays Harbor, Kitsap, Jefferson, Clallam.  Good Dem lean.

7th
Yes, they split Seattle -- the minority-y parts Central District and southward are in the 9th.  Welcome, Lake Forest Park and Normandy Park, and all the way up to Edmonds.  Strongly Dem.

8th
Sammamish, Issaquah, Auburn, a bit of Kent, Snoqualmie, North Bend...and then over to Kittitas and Chelan, I think?  Terrible map.  Reichert's pretty safe now, though.

9th
Is this minority majority?  Southeast Seattle and the expected suburbs, plus Newcastle, Bellevue, Mercer Island, and Northeast Tacoma.  Strange; Dem.

10th
Central Pierce County (UP, Fife, Sumner, Puyallup, East Tacoma, Spanaway, Summit, Frederickson, DuPont) plus pretty much all but far south Thurston County.  I'm not sure how this district would be oriented...probably a modest Dem lean.  Can someone crunch the numbers?

That makes:

1st - Democrat
2nd - Democrat
3rd - Republican
4th - Republican
5th - Republican
6th - Democrat
7th - Democrat
8th - Republican
9th - Democrat
10th - Swing?

Democrat 5, Republican 4, Dem Swing (?) 1
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« Reply #2881 on: December 28, 2011, 02:34:10 PM »

Wow...what a terrible map, though not surprising. I really don't like what they did to the 1st and 2nd districts. The 1st goes all the way from Lynden to Yarrow Point. WTF?
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« Reply #2882 on: December 28, 2011, 02:41:42 PM »

There is a redistricting thread, you know. Tongue
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« Reply #2883 on: December 28, 2011, 05:42:27 PM »

You have the political leanings of the 1st and 10th districts mixed-up. The 10 district is lean D, the 1st district is a toss-up.
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« Reply #2884 on: December 28, 2011, 06:41:30 PM »

Any chance one of the Democratic legislators will run in the Heckmander? It would at least be semi-satisfying if he lost to another Democrat.
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« Reply #2885 on: December 28, 2011, 06:51:16 PM »
« Edited: December 28, 2011, 06:56:49 PM by seatown »


Is there any reasonable way to draw WA more Republican? There should be at least 6 safe dem seats.
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« Reply #2886 on: December 28, 2011, 06:52:30 PM »

Any chance one of the Democratic legislators will run in the Heckmander? It would at least be semi-satisfying if he lost to another Democrat.

They've all already endorsed him Smiley
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« Reply #2887 on: December 28, 2011, 06:55:12 PM »

Any chance one of the Democratic legislators will run in the Heckmander? It would at least be semi-satisfying if he lost to another Democrat.

They've all already endorsed him Smiley

Oh well. Some corrupt good ol' boy party hack wins. Again.
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« Reply #2888 on: December 28, 2011, 07:00:18 PM »

Any chance one of the Democratic legislators will run in the Heckmander? It would at least be semi-satisfying if he lost to another Democrat.

They've all already endorsed him Smiley

Oh well. Some corrupt good ol' boy party hack wins. Again.

wurt.? You're an independent now? Protest against Tim Ceis? Wink
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« Reply #2889 on: December 28, 2011, 07:02:25 PM »

Anybody think that we could be down to one Republican district after 2020 redistricting?
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« Reply #2890 on: December 28, 2011, 07:07:40 PM »

Anybody think that we could be down to one Republican district after 2020 redistricting?
Not a chance. I doubt there will be enough Hispanic growth to make the 4th democratic and the fifth still will probably be marginally or modestly solid republican.

I think the third will continue to be republican as well, I can only imagine further exurban growth in Clark county, which will continue to outvote the more established Vancouver/Hazel Dell/Camas area.
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« Reply #2891 on: December 28, 2011, 07:11:13 PM »

Any chance of Marko Liias running against Larsen in that horrific WA-02?
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« Reply #2892 on: December 28, 2011, 07:12:32 PM »

Liias actually wound up in the 7th CD.
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« Reply #2893 on: December 28, 2011, 07:48:29 PM »

Any chance one of the Democratic legislators will run in the Heckmander? It would at least be semi-satisfying if he lost to another Democrat.

They've all already endorsed him Smiley

Oh well. Some corrupt good ol' boy party hack wins. Again.

wurt.? You're an independent now? Protest against Tim Ceis? Wink

I've been thinking about it for a while. It was one factor in my decision.

We'll see if I stick with it. Maybe I'm just being mad and will switch back. I don't know. Tongue

Governor McKenna, a Republican State Senate, and maybe 5 Republican Congressmen. Next year is gonna be just delightful.
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« Reply #2894 on: December 28, 2011, 07:54:27 PM »

Any chance one of the Democratic legislators will run in the Heckmander? It would at least be semi-satisfying if he lost to another Democrat.

They've all already endorsed him Smiley

Oh well. Some corrupt good ol' boy party hack wins. Again.

wurt.? You're an independent now? Protest against Tim Ceis? Wink

I've been thinking about it for a while. It was one factor in my decision.

We'll see if I stick with it. Maybe I'm just being mad and will switch back. I don't know. Tongue

Governor McKenna, a Republican State Senate, and maybe 5 Republican Congressmen. Next year is gonna be just delightful.

Whoa, I thought you were realisticidealist for a second! 
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« Reply #2895 on: December 28, 2011, 08:51:35 PM »

Liias actually wound up in the 7th CD.
I think the 7th might actually be open. Doesn't McDermott live in Mt.Baker, which is now the 9th? Or am I just plain wrong that he lives in south Seattle....?
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« Reply #2896 on: December 28, 2011, 09:09:12 PM »

Liias actually wound up in the 7th CD.
I think the 7th might actually be open. Doesn't McDermott live in Mt.Baker, which is now the 9th? Or am I just plain wrong that he lives in south Seattle....?

It looks like he's registered in Queen Anne.
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« Reply #2897 on: December 28, 2011, 11:16:08 PM »

bgwah is telling me how this Steve Hobbes guy is a right wing anti-worker prick.
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« Reply #2898 on: December 29, 2011, 04:54:21 AM »

Any chance one of the Democratic legislators will run in the Heckmander? It would at least be semi-satisfying if he lost to another Democrat.

They've all already endorsed him Smiley

Oh well. Some corrupt good ol' boy party hack wins. Again.

wurt.? You're an independent now? Protest against Tim Ceis? Wink

I've been thinking about it for a while. It was one factor in my decision.

We'll see if I stick with it. Maybe I'm just being mad and will switch back. I don't know. Tongue

Governor McKenna, a Republican State Senate, and maybe 5 Republican Congressmen. Next year is gonna be just delightful.

Background on the state senate map?
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« Reply #2899 on: December 29, 2011, 08:07:06 AM »

Same thing as the congressional map. Democrats being packed into a few districts that are ultra-Democratic and Republicans getting a bunch of districts that are just Republican enough to be out of the Democrats hands outside of a landslide for their party.
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