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« Reply #4875 on: August 08, 2016, 05:21:25 PM »

Two party breakdown for King County (US Senate race):
Seattle: 88-12 Democrat
Suburbs: 65-35 Democrat
Total: 74-26 Democrat

Yes, you read that right. King County was 65% Democrat without Seattle.

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Eh, the Senate race isn't really that competitive though.

The Democrats even have 70% of the two party vote in the race for Governor! I didn't think King County could get much more Democratic, but here we are.
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« Reply #4876 on: August 08, 2016, 09:05:38 PM »

Based on late ballots, calling the Washington 7th 2nd slot for Walkinshaw (Jayapal has the first slot) and the Washington 8th 2nd slot for Ventrella (Reichert has the first slot).

Counting will continue for another week - 35k ballots left statewide but it's not enough to realistically change anything. Treasurer is mathematically R vs. R now. Wyman isn't quite mathematically locked into slot 1 yet for SOS, but it would take quite the margin among the remaining ballots for Podlowski to catch up. It has narrowed back to 48-46 though.
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« Reply #4877 on: August 08, 2016, 09:30:01 PM »

Which of the Treasurer candidates is more moderate?
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« Reply #4878 on: August 09, 2016, 07:04:21 PM »

Wyman's 1st round victory is mathematically locked in now.
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« Reply #4879 on: August 11, 2016, 06:34:13 PM »

Precinct map for the 42nd LD's first house position.  The Incumbent Republican won 52%-40%.

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« Reply #4880 on: August 11, 2016, 06:37:24 PM »

The difference between Bellingham and Lynden is huge. I wonder if the 42nd is one of the most polarized districts in the state?
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« Reply #4881 on: August 11, 2016, 06:52:27 PM »

The difference between Bellingham and Lynden is huge. I wonder if the 42nd is one of the most polarized districts in the state?

Without a doubt.  Tongue  lol  I just wish it included more of Bellingham.  Obama got a plurality of it's votes last time around, but all of it's legislators are Republicans.  Redistricting after the 2010 wave certainly helped them.
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« Reply #4882 on: August 11, 2016, 07:22:19 PM »

The difference between Bellingham and Lynden is huge. I wonder if the 42nd is one of the most polarized districts in the state?

Without a doubt.  Tongue  lol  I just wish it included more of Bellingham.  Obama got a plurality of it's votes last time around, but all of it's legislators are Republicans.  Redistricting after the 2010 wave certainly helped them.

Just so long as it doesn't annex WWU. I like being in the 40th. 
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« Reply #4883 on: August 11, 2016, 11:23:40 PM »

For such a Democratic state at the Presidential and congressional levels, why are Republicans so close to taking full control of the legislature? Compared to Oregon, Washington looks like a toss-up between the two parties -here's the breakdown as of August this year:

WA Senate

Democrats: 24
Republicans: 25

WA House

Democrats: 50
Republicans: 48

https://ballotpedia.org/Washington_State_Legislature

OR Senate

Democrats: 18
Republicans: 12

OR House

Democrats: 35
Republicans: 25

https://ballotpedia.org/Oregon_State_Legislature
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« Reply #4884 on: August 12, 2016, 01:25:35 AM »

Which of the Treasurer candidates is more moderate?

I don't know what kind of moderate identifies with the Republican party these days.  They must both be pretty old-fashioned.
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« Reply #4885 on: August 12, 2016, 01:49:55 AM »

Which of the Treasurer candidates is more moderate?

I don't know what kind of moderate identifies with the Republican party these days.  They must both be pretty old-fashioned.

Err...George Pataki, Charlie Baker, Larry Hogan, Lisa Murkowski, Mark Kirk, Carlos Curbelo, Bruce Poliquin, Susan Collins...even within Washington you have Steve Litzow, Andy Hill, Rob McKenna, Kim Wyman, maybe Dino Rossi.
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« Reply #4886 on: August 12, 2016, 01:53:56 AM »

Which of the Treasurer candidates is more moderate?

I don't know what kind of moderate identifies with the Republican party these days.  They must both be pretty old-fashioned.

Err...George Pataki, Charlie Baker, Larry Hogan, Lisa Murkowski, Mark Kirk, Carlos Curbelo, Bruce Poliquin, Susan Collins...even within Washington you have Steve Litzow, Andy Hill, Rob McKenna, Kim Wyman, maybe Dino Rossi.

Those people are all clueless and terrible.  Get a grip.  Suffice it to say that I will not be recruiting you for advice on how to vote for Washington State Treasurer.
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« Reply #4887 on: August 12, 2016, 02:13:14 AM »

Which of the Treasurer candidates is more moderate?

I don't know what kind of moderate identifies with the Republican party these days.  They must both be pretty old-fashioned.

Err...George Pataki, Charlie Baker, Larry Hogan, Lisa Murkowski, Mark Kirk, Carlos Curbelo, Bruce Poliquin, Susan Collins...even within Washington you have Steve Litzow, Andy Hill, Rob McKenna, Kim Wyman, maybe Dino Rossi.

Those people are all clueless and terrible.  Get a grip.  Suffice it to say that I will not be recruiting you for advice on how to vote for Washington State Treasurer.

Well, obviously a socialist like yourself (green party, whatever, it's basically the same) thinks Hillary Clinton or similar is "moderate", but that's not reality. That being said, neither candidate is likely to agree with you on anything, so just leave that part of the ballot blank.
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« Reply #4888 on: August 12, 2016, 04:09:25 AM »
« Edited: August 12, 2016, 04:13:19 AM by smoltchanov »

Which of the Treasurer candidates is more moderate?

I don't know what kind of moderate identifies with the Republican party these days.  They must both be pretty old-fashioned.

For YOU (essentially - a socialist) - may be. For me - Steve Litzov is patented moderate. Hill - generally too. And some others. And this is  a Washington state only. I can give dozens of names of Republican elected officials (in addition to those already mentioned here) who absolutely deserve this title. There are even few who may be called "liberals". Usually - a moderate liberal type, but - still...

And though large part of about 51% of voters, who voted for Democratic candidates in Treasurer race, will sit November Treasurer election out, many - will not (and most likely will vote for more moderate of 2 Republicans). So - the question is both legitimate and practically useful from electoral point of view.
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« Reply #4889 on: August 12, 2016, 06:02:52 PM »
« Edited: August 12, 2016, 06:06:23 PM by publicunofficial »

For such a Democratic state at the Presidential and congressional levels, why are Republicans so close to taking full control of the legislature? Compared to Oregon, Washington looks like a toss-up between the two parties -here's the breakdown as of August this year:

WA Senate

Democrats: 24
Republicans: 25

WA House

Democrats: 50
Republicans: 48

https://ballotpedia.org/Washington_State_Legislature

OR Senate

Democrats: 18
Republicans: 12

OR House

Democrats: 35
Republicans: 25

https://ballotpedia.org/Oregon_State_Legislature


The Oregon legislature is currently a mild Democratic gerrymander, whereas Washington draws it's maps with a bi-partisan commission that tends to benefit Republicans. And while Republicans are able to compete in blue territory (Bellevue, Tacoma suburbs, ect.), Democrats don't hold a single seat that Romney won.
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« Reply #4890 on: August 12, 2016, 07:03:52 PM »

Well, obviously a socialist like yourself (green party, whatever, it's basically the same) thinks Hillary Clinton or similar is "moderate", but that's not reality.

I'm enjoying the resurgence in 'socialist' being used as an epithet!  Not sure what the relevance of Hillary Clinton is here, not sure if she's a "moderate" but she's certainly the only sane choice in the presidential election.  Is moderation a compromise between sheer utter insanity and being generally stable?  And which treasurer candidate has shown more of a willingness to compromise in the direction of competence?
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« Reply #4891 on: August 13, 2016, 08:07:23 AM »

And which treasurer candidate has shown more of a willingness to compromise in the direction of competence?

That's exactly what we asked YOU, local denizen, who must know better..
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« Reply #4892 on: August 13, 2016, 01:19:25 PM »
« Edited: August 13, 2016, 01:21:47 PM by realisticidealist »

There isn't much difference between Waite and Davidson. Both are anti-income tax, anti-deficit spending. The main difference is that one's a politician and one's a Wall Street financial management guy.

Davidson, the politician, has most of the big endorsements (Wyman, Reed, other county treasurers from both parties). Waite is backed by McKenna and some Republican state senators.

If I had to pick one, Davidson is probably slightly more likely to play nice with the establishment whereas Waite might be more hardline.
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« Reply #4893 on: August 13, 2016, 01:33:53 PM »

^ Thanks a lot! This IS what i call an information))))
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« Reply #4894 on: August 15, 2016, 05:19:48 PM »

There isn't much difference between Waite and Davidson. Both are anti-income tax, anti-deficit spending. The main difference is that one's a politician and one's a Wall Street financial management guy.

Davidson, the politician, has most of the big endorsements (Wyman, Reed, other county treasurers from both parties). Waite is backed by McKenna and some Republican state senators.

If I had to pick one, Davidson is probably slightly more likely to play nice with the establishment whereas Waite might be more hardline.

Thanks for the info.  I might leave that race blank. :/
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« Reply #4895 on: August 15, 2016, 06:02:40 PM »

Who do we think replaces Inslee in 2020?

Bob Ferguson and Dow Constantine are generally considered to be the frontrunners.
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« Reply #4896 on: August 15, 2016, 06:35:23 PM »

Who do we think replaces Inslee in 2020?

Bob Ferguson and Dow Constantine are generally considered to be the frontrunners.

I can't imagine it's anyone other than these two. King County CE is the most high-profile non-statewide office and a lot of candidates (Gregoire, McKenna) have come from the AG'e office. I have to imagine Constantine has the advantage and has put in his dues, personally. I suspect BOTH will eventually be Governor.
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« Reply #4897 on: August 15, 2016, 06:48:20 PM »

There isn't much difference between Waite and Davidson. Both are anti-income tax, anti-deficit spending. The main difference is that one's a politician and one's a Wall Street financial management guy.

Davidson, the politician, has most of the big endorsements (Wyman, Reed, other county treasurers from both parties). Waite is backed by McKenna and some Republican state senators.

If I had to pick one, Davidson is probably slightly more likely to play nice with the establishment whereas Waite might be more hardline.

If Waite is more hardline, why'd McKenna endorse him?

It seems strange that McKenna and Wyman split endorsements. I'd probably support Davidson, though.
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« Reply #4898 on: August 15, 2016, 08:38:22 PM »

There isn't much difference between Waite and Davidson. Both are anti-income tax, anti-deficit spending. The main difference is that one's a politician and one's a Wall Street financial management guy.

Davidson, the politician, has most of the big endorsements (Wyman, Reed, other county treasurers from both parties). Waite is backed by McKenna and some Republican state senators.

If I had to pick one, Davidson is probably slightly more likely to play nice with the establishment whereas Waite might be more hardline.

If Waite is more hardline, why'd McKenna endorse him?

It seems strange that McKenna and Wyman split endorsements. I'd probably support Davidson, though.

I never, ever leave a race blank, so I'd probably support Davidson for this reason, too.
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« Reply #4899 on: August 15, 2016, 10:11:19 PM »

There isn't much difference between Waite and Davidson. Both are anti-income tax, anti-deficit spending. The main difference is that one's a politician and one's a Wall Street financial management guy.

Davidson, the politician, has most of the big endorsements (Wyman, Reed, other county treasurers from both parties). Waite is backed by McKenna and some Republican state senators.

If I had to pick one, Davidson is probably slightly more likely to play nice with the establishment whereas Waite might be more hardline.

If Waite is more hardline, why'd McKenna endorse him?

Pretty sure Reed and Wyman are more moderate than McKenna, who sued Obama over the mandate.
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