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Ryan
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« on: November 23, 2003, 02:01:10 PM »

I agree that Clark or Richardson are the best bets Dean has (and I also agree that either will help him win Cheesy)

And also (I'm being very Agreeable today Grin) since the midwest will be a decider in the event of a close race, a VP who can pull votes there might be a good idea. However I dont really know of anyone who fits the bill. ........

Gephardt as VP?? doesnt seem to work to me.
How bout Evan Bayh of Indiana??
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Ryan
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« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2003, 03:09:32 AM »

A) A black VP nominee wont help Bush crack into the black vote. A Hispanic VP might vastly increase the GOP showing in the Hispanic community. I would say that a BLACK GOP PRESIDENTIAL nominee wouldn't take more than 20-30% of the black vote and again the reverse applies to a Hispanic nominee

B) Bush would never drop Cheney unless Cheney himself elects to drop out!!!!
If there is one thing that endears Bush to ordinary people its his standards of integrity and loyalty. He would NEVER dump Cheney for electoral gain.

I just wish Cheney who is also a reasonable man and a party loyalist would see that the GOP would gain much more from SEVERAL other VP possibilities.


So let's go one step further in speculation, if a Dean/Clark ticket was looking strong in the polls by the Republican convention, would Bush replace Cheney?

I think he could.
1) His policies have strong support in the conservative base, so he no longer needs Cheney to prove his conservatism.
2) Bush, is pretty practical and if a better VP were availble, he might go for him/her.

Best choice to strengthen Bush in the Mid-Atlantic would be Guliani, putting NY, NJ, and CT in play, solidify suburban support in OH, PA and MI.

The choice of Powell or Rice, might also add votes from the suburbs in PA, OH, MI, IA, WI, MN, FL.  I think it would also tend to increase the Hispanic vote for Bush, helping with CO, AZ, NM, NV.   Of course a minority VP would cut white support in the South, but it might be balanced by some gain in African-American support.  But I'm skeptical if any minority Republican would increase Bush's dismal proportion of the African-American vote.  

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Ryan
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« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2003, 12:32:22 PM »

Edwards couldn't help in SC, he would have had trouble being reelected in the Senate.  

If Dean is the nominee, nothing is going to help him in the South.

The political and social undercurrents are such that Dean will be extremely lucky to win 10 states against Bush in 2004.
Could you drop the excessive hyperbole occasionally?

Hmmmm I wonder who it was who made the following quote about poor ol' Reagan Grin

He would have lost.
Economics was never his strong point and the late '70's saw a World Recession.
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Ryan
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« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2003, 04:09:37 PM »

Clark would be a great VP candidate.  He would bering the nat'l security strength that Dean doesn't have to the table.
I've been told on a previous thread that Clarke would never be Dean's Running Mate because they are running against one another and because they disagree on many issues. The one commonality they do share, and all candidates do, is the belief that G.W. must be sent back to Texas to live.

I don't think that Clark and Dean like each other.

Hmm I heard otherwise....that they were in touch before Clark ran and Clark even gave Dean some advice an all. Still the info may  not have been that accurate
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