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« Reply #25 on: June 08, 2008, 11:58:13 AM »

If anything there would be an embargo, not sanctions. Allow food and medical supplies in, keep everything else out. But of course nothing will happen at all.

I would love for there to be an emargo; it's better than war.

Any reason for an embargo?

Iran can't make any of the weapons it uses or parts of their nuclear program. Embargo the country except for food and medical supplies and they won't be able to get anything else or finish thier program, unless of course they already have what they need.

In that case, embargo Israel, why don't we?

I wouldn't consider the Knesset responsible enough to have the big toys.

Really?
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« Reply #26 on: June 08, 2008, 12:53:26 PM »

They've had them for awhile now and haven't used them, what (other than a deep seated bias) makes you think that will change soon?

The comments mentioned. Look at how many radical Zionists there are int he Knesset.
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« Reply #27 on: June 08, 2008, 01:16:47 PM »

Why not embargo Israel instead? They've repeatedly proven themselves to break commitments and treaties along with continuing illegal occupations(west bank, golan, gaza, the old city) and they have WMD too.
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« Reply #28 on: June 08, 2008, 01:25:43 PM »

They've had them for awhile now and haven't used them, what (other than a deep seated bias) makes you think that will change soon?

The comments mentioned. Look at how many radical Zionists there are int he Knesset.

Thankfully, those radical Zionists are not in charge.
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« Reply #29 on: June 08, 2008, 01:26:22 PM »

They've had them for awhile now and haven't used them, what (other than a deep seated bias) makes you think that will change soon?

The comments mentioned. Look at how many radical Zionists there are int he Knesset.

Thankfully, those radical Zionists are not in charge.

No, but they're in government.
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« Reply #30 on: June 08, 2008, 01:27:28 PM »

They've had them for awhile now and haven't used them, what (other than a deep seated bias) makes you think that will change soon?

The comments mentioned. Look at how many radical Zionists there are int he Knesset.

Thankfully, those radical Zionists are not in charge.

No, but they're in government.

Yes, but as long as they're not in charge, they aren't as big a threat.  There are radicals in our government, too.
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« Reply #31 on: June 08, 2008, 01:28:42 PM »

Last I checked Likud was a mainstream party there so...
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« Reply #32 on: June 08, 2008, 01:33:17 PM »

Last I checked Likud was a mainstream party there so...

All the major parties are fairly mainstream, and there is nothing to worry about from any of them.
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« Reply #33 on: June 08, 2008, 01:40:15 PM »

They've had them for awhile now and haven't used them, what (other than a deep seated bias) makes you think that will change soon?

The comments mentioned. Look at how many radical Zionists there are int he Knesset.

Thankfully, those radical Zionists are not in charge.

No, but they're in government.

Yes, but as long as they're not in charge, they aren't as big a threat.  There are radicals in our government, too.

Name one.
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« Reply #34 on: June 08, 2008, 01:48:23 PM »

They've had them for awhile now and haven't used them, what (other than a deep seated bias) makes you think that will change soon?

The comments mentioned. Look at how many radical Zionists there are int he Knesset.

Thankfully, those radical Zionists are not in charge.

No, but they're in government.

Yes, but as long as they're not in charge, they aren't as big a threat.  There are radicals in our government, too.

Name one.

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« Reply #35 on: June 08, 2008, 01:50:25 PM »

They've had them for awhile now and haven't used them, what (other than a deep seated bias) makes you think that will change soon?

The comments mentioned. Look at how many radical Zionists there are int he Knesset.

Thankfully, those radical Zionists are not in charge.

No, but they're in government.

Yes, but as long as they're not in charge, they aren't as big a threat.  There are radicals in our government, too.

Name one.

Marilyn Musgrave

Not a part of the government.
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« Reply #36 on: June 08, 2008, 01:58:33 PM »

They've had them for awhile now and haven't used them, what (other than a deep seated bias) makes you think that will change soon?

The comments mentioned. Look at how many radical Zionists there are int he Knesset.

Thankfully, those radical Zionists are not in charge.

No, but they're in government.

Yes, but as long as they're not in charge, they aren't as big a threat.  There are radicals in our government, too.

Name one.

Marilyn Musgrave

Not a part of the government.

She's a Congresswoman.
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« Reply #37 on: June 08, 2008, 02:25:29 PM »

She's an unimportant Congresswoman in the minority party.

The Israeli deputy Prime Minister on the other hand, Avigdor Lieberman, who is even worse than our Lieberman is basically an out and out fascist who has called for ethnic cleansing of Gaza and deliberate and targeted bombing of civilian targets in it. He's also called Arab members of the Knesset traitors and suggested that some should be executed. And he pretty much holds a position equivalent to that of Nancy Pelosi in our government.
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« Reply #38 on: June 08, 2008, 03:44:38 PM »

It's an understandable position.  Top Iranian officials have repeatedly threatened the Israelis with death and destruction for decades, and now they are getting close to nukes.  If these facts are true, then yes, they have a right to defend themselves from that threat.  (and then face the international reaction to it)


Interesting, coming from you, if you dont mind me saying.
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« Reply #39 on: June 08, 2008, 11:48:49 PM »

She's an unimportant Congresswoman in the minority party.

The Israeli deputy Prime Minister on the other hand, Avigdor Lieberman, who is even worse than our Lieberman is basically an out and out fascist who has called for ethnic cleansing of Gaza and deliberate and targeted bombing of civilian targets in it. He's also called Arab members of the Knesset traitors and suggested that some should be executed. And he pretty much holds a position equivalent to that of Nancy Pelosi in our government.
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« Reply #40 on: June 09, 2008, 02:54:09 AM »

It's an understandable position.  Top Iranian officials have repeatedly threatened the Israelis with death and destruction for decades, and now they are getting close to nukes.  If these facts are true, then yes, they have a right to defend themselves from that threat.  (and then face the international reaction to it)


Interesting, coming from you, if you dont mind me saying.
Don't mind at all Smiley

Nations have a right to defend themselves, why wouldn't I believe in that?
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« Reply #41 on: June 09, 2008, 09:09:17 AM »

Last I checked Likud was a mainstream party there so...

All the major parties are fairly mainstream, and there is nothing to worry about from any of them.
Unless you're a Palestinian or an Israeli who wants to live in a society that's actually secular and doesn't have theocratic tendencies.
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« Reply #42 on: June 09, 2008, 03:34:12 PM »

Last I checked Likud was a mainstream party there so...

All the major parties are fairly mainstream, and there is nothing to worry about from any of them.

We have nothing to fear from Yisrael Beitenu or their allies in Likud? Or from the theocrats in Shas? Right.
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« Reply #43 on: June 09, 2008, 03:37:22 PM »

Last I checked Likud was a mainstream party there so...

All the major parties are fairly mainstream, and there is nothing to worry about from any of them.

We have nothing to fear from Yisrael Beitenu or their allies in Likud? Or from the theocrats in Shas? Right.

No, we have nothing to fear from them.
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« Reply #44 on: June 09, 2008, 03:58:31 PM »

Although I'd like to avoid war with Iran, if Israel goes to war, then the US must be ready to defend our greatest ally.



Disgusting.

Formerly the biggest Democratic hack is now a Republican.

Glad to see you have found your place, just like Joe Lieberman.

Well, I do seem to be trending to the right recently.

Is there ANYTHING besides your view on Israel that makes you even remotely close to a Republican?
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« Reply #45 on: June 09, 2008, 03:59:51 PM »

Although I'd like to avoid war with Iran, if Israel goes to war, then the US must be ready to defend our greatest ally.



Disgusting.

Formerly the biggest Democratic hack is now a Republican.

Glad to see you have found your place, just like Joe Lieberman.

Well, I do seem to be trending to the right recently.

Is there ANYTHING besides your view on Israel that makes you even remotely close to a Republican?

Overall, my foreign policy is closer to the GOP than the Democrats.  As it's been pointed out, I am a bit of a prude, and I have some social views that fit better with the GOP.
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« Reply #46 on: June 09, 2008, 05:50:02 PM »

Don't worry, the way the parties are going in 10-20 years you'll be a perfect fit for the Republicans.
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« Reply #47 on: June 09, 2008, 08:48:41 PM »

Last I checked Likud was a mainstream party there so...

All the major parties are fairly mainstream, and there is nothing to worry about from any of them.

We have nothing to fear from Yisrael Beitenu or their allies in Likud? Or from the theocrats in Shas? Right.

No, we have nothing to fear from them.

In that case, we have nothing to fear from Fatah.
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« Reply #48 on: June 10, 2008, 07:48:50 AM »

Although I'd like to avoid war with Iran, if Israel goes to war, then the US must be ready to defend our greatest ally.



Disgusting.

Formerly the biggest Democratic hack is now a Republican.

Glad to see you have found your place, just like Joe Lieberman.

Well, I do seem to be trending to the right recently.

Is there ANYTHING besides your view on Israel that makes you even remotely close to a Republican?

Overall, my foreign policy is closer to the GOP than the Democrats.  As it's been pointed out, I am a bit of a prude, and I have some social views that fit better with the GOP.

concerning foreign policy: like the Iraq war, perhaps? Or complete lack of diplomacy?

concerning social views: pro-life? anti gay marriage?

I'm not trying to insult you, but isn't it kind of...ummm...embarrasing to claim to be a Republican when you have a PM score of -4/0?
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« Reply #49 on: June 11, 2008, 02:48:04 PM »

Although I'd like to avoid war with Iran, if Israel goes to war, then the US must be ready to defend our greatest ally.



Disgusting.

Formerly the biggest Democratic hack is now a Republican.

Glad to see you have found your place, just like Joe Lieberman.

Well, I do seem to be trending to the right recently.

Is there ANYTHING besides your view on Israel that makes you even remotely close to a Republican?

Overall, my foreign policy is closer to the GOP than the Democrats.  As it's been pointed out, I am a bit of a prude, and I have some social views that fit better with the GOP.

concerning foreign policy: like the Iraq war, perhaps? Or complete lack of diplomacy?

concerning social views: pro-life? anti gay marriage?

I'm not trying to insult you, but isn't it kind of...ummm...embarrasing to claim to be a Republican when you have a PM score of -4/0?

Colin Wixted's score is +2/-7, and he's a GOPer.
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