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« on: June 12, 2008, 07:01:38 PM »

In 1944, had Roosevelt kept Wallace as his running mate instead of dropping him and picking Truman, how do you think Roosevelt would do? Woould it hurt him so badly that he looses, what would happen?

See my thread in post election section of this forum for a Roosevelt/Wallace in 1944 scenario.
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« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2008, 08:20:49 PM »

FDR would not have lost.

Although, a Wallace Presidency would have been terrible for the US.
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« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2008, 11:54:28 PM »

Wouldn't likely have changed a single state in the '44 election, but would have portentous consequences on the future of the US.  Wallace was extremely naive in his view of the Soviet Union (of course so were many people in the months immediately after the end of the war, but Wallace persisted in his beliefs to a ridiculous point).  Stalin runs over Europe.
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« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2008, 11:39:01 AM »

I liked Wallace's views on domestic issues but I agree he would have been a pretty bad president.
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« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2008, 02:21:58 PM »

Wallace would have made a terrible President.  He would have let the USSR dominate all of Europe, and say it was a good thing, too.
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« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2008, 08:33:37 PM »

Wallace would have made a terrible President.  He would have let the USSR dominate all of Europe, and say it was a good thing, too.

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« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2008, 09:34:12 PM »

It is one of those hypothetical questions. The Dem bigwigs knew FDR was dying and that Wallace had to go. I suspect if FDR had refused, some of them might have outed FDR's health problems. Wallace frightened the hell out of them. It was a different party then. Truman was selected with the expectation that he would be president in a word, and the party bosses chose well. They knew Truman, and appreciated his abilities, in a way the nation did not. There is a case to be made for smoke filled rooms.
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« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2008, 12:15:16 AM »

There is no way that Roosevelt would have lost his bid for a fourth term as President of the United States, had he kept incumbent Vice President Henry A. Wallace on the 1944 Democratic ticket. Sure there was backlash at the '44 Convention from conservatives in the Democratic Party retaining Wallace as Vice President, but had Wallace won the Vice Presidential ballot, they would not have done what they did in your scenario Mr. Porter and ran a third party campaign against FDR's decision.

As for a Wallace Presidency, it would have been a win-win for Josef Stalin and the Soviet Union. Wallace would let Stalin run over Europe as Preston stated and if my memory serves me correctly had Wallace become President, he would have appointed Laurence Duggan as Secretary of State and Harry Dexter White as Secretary of the Treasury, who were at the time Soviet sympathisers and later to be found out Soviet spies. Early Detente is a likely possibility between the two nations?
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« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2008, 10:01:49 PM »

Wallace would have made a terrible President.  He would have let the USSR dominate all of Europe, and say it was a good thing, too.
But he would have started to enact Civil Rights stuff for African-Americans and made the New Deal stay strong.
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« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2008, 12:06:17 AM »

Wallace would have made a terrible President.  He would have let the USSR dominate all of Europe, and say it was a good thing, too.
But he would have started to enact Civil Rights stuff for African-Americans and made the New Deal stay strong.

No he wouldn't.  He wouldn't have been able to get anything done, and may well have killed the New Deal.
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« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2008, 12:16:09 AM »

Wallace would have made a terrible President.  He would have let the USSR dominate all of Europe, and say it was a good thing, too.
But he would have started to enact Civil Rights stuff for African-Americans and made the New Deal stay strong.

No he wouldn't.  He wouldn't have been able to get anything done, and may well have killed the New Deal.

I agree with EMD that had Wallace stayed on the 1944 Democratic ticket and had become President of the United States upon the death of President Roosevelt in April 1945, that a Wallace Presidency would have atleast tried to implement Civil Rights agenda, though considering Wallace had enemies to fight in both his own party and in the Republican Party, Ben is correct that he wouldn' have been able to achieve anything as President.
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« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2008, 07:46:53 AM »

FDR nearly killed the New Deal, let alone what Wallace would have done.
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« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2008, 05:23:16 PM »

Wallace would have made a terrible President.  He would have let the USSR dominate all of Europe, and say it was a good thing, too.
But he would have started to enact Civil Rights stuff for African-Americans and made the New Deal stay strong.

No he wouldn't.  He wouldn't have been able to get anything done, and may well have killed the New Deal.
Well what I meant was that he would have good intentions and good ideas, they would just be destroyed at the time.
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