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« Reply #75 on: August 04, 2008, 11:53:37 PM »

Come on, OREGON!!!
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« Reply #76 on: August 05, 2008, 12:22:39 AM »
« Edited: August 05, 2008, 08:55:37 AM by Andy Jackson »

Oregon, Oregon, Oregon! would become a call back to the 2000 Election were Florida was the deciding factor and now it was Oregon and the former Tim Russert coined those simple words, my good friend Tim said those simple words that in body everything of this election, this election that shall bring in some that say a new FDR or would continue the Republican legacy from 2001 to the present day. - Tom Brokaw on the 2012 Election

This seems to be another nail bitter Election like 2000 and 2008 and it seems this could be another suprise for the American people and we can establish that after the 2008 Election that everything changed with now third parties becoming an integral part of the Presidential Elections for a change... - Wolf Blitzer, CNN 2012 Election Coverage

This is a simple choice with the blossoming of a new Ronald Reagan and a new frontier for America and a simple choice is to cast your ballot for Bobby Jindal and Tim Pawlenty, that simple and that easy for the U.S of A.. - Rush Limbaugh, 2012 Reporting

Vote after vote would be counted in Oregon as the final results would trickle in with one of the kingmaking results came in....

Oregon, 2012 Presidential Election
1st - Bobby Jindal - 45.4
2nd - Russ Feingold - 45.2
3rd - Dennis Kucinich - 4.9
4th - Gary Johnson - 3.4
Other - 1.1

We can now call that Oregon will go to Bobby Jindal


Jindal/Pawlenty: 276    Feingold/Biden: 270    Johnson/Jingozian: 0    Kucinich/Mesplay: 0
274 Electoral Votes Needed to Win the Presidential Election, 2012


                 
And Bobby Jindal Will Be Reelected For A Second Term!



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« Reply #77 on: August 05, 2008, 01:03:10 AM »

What are pundits saying after this election?
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« Reply #78 on: August 05, 2008, 01:18:38 AM »

Andy, here is a helpful tip regarding your 2012 Election Coverage.

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« Reply #79 on: August 05, 2008, 08:49:31 AM »

Andy, here is a helpful tip regarding your 2012 Election Coverage.

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« Reply #80 on: August 05, 2008, 09:08:01 AM »

What are pundits saying after this election?
Most are continuing to chant the same thing and Tom Brokaw's after report on the 2012 Election sums things up for the American People's outlook on the Election "This Election was a nail bitter down to the bitter end but Senator Feingold has called President Jindal to congratulate him on his win but people after this will continue to wonder What If? With Democratic Nominee Feingold only falling short of the presidency by four electoral votes and New Mexico or Oregon would have handed him the election, this might begin things to come for future Elections and Presidents" - Tom Brokaw, After the 2012 Results
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« Reply #81 on: August 05, 2008, 11:44:16 AM »

That map is completely implausible for many reasons.
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« Reply #82 on: August 05, 2008, 01:19:29 PM »

That map is completely implausible for many reasons.

Not really.  Especially considering it's four years in the future.

But it bucks all the trends that have taken effect. It may have made sense in 2003, but not now.
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« Reply #83 on: August 05, 2008, 03:38:18 PM »

I just don't see Jindal taking Colorado or OREGON, for crist's sake.... Jindal would be lucky to break 45 in Oregon and 48 in Colorado...and hell, Feingold could probably get 60%+ in Washington. I would have a map where Pennsylvania or Michigan decided the election.


It would be fun to see how the Democrats dealt with finally being unelectable as a party and how Jindal would use his reactionary mandate.
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« Reply #84 on: August 07, 2008, 08:59:55 PM »



After Bobby Jindal was elected to his "second" in his own right of a true four year term, things oversea's and more close to home would begin to shape America and the world. Now after nearly five years ago when Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf was impeached by the parliament there and would be replaced by Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani who would have a shaky term in office and soon several assassination attempts were tried to take his life but these would fail, soon enough the military tried to put more control of the government in there hands only to come to blows with President Giliani and soon a coup would be attempted as it would shatter the nation as Musharraf's "Grand Coalition" of political parties would fracture and vie for power in the crippled Pakistan and soon tension would reach the boiling point that a civil war broke out when incumbent President Yousaf Raza Gilani was reelected and the Muttahida Majlis-e-Amal or the United Council of Action sued that the election was rigged and called out to rise up and overthrow the Gilani Government, with this the MMA dominannt North-West Frontier Province began a rebellion against the Pakistani Government, soon followed by another coup by the government and also leading a faction in Pakistan in the Pakistani Civil War. Other areas soon rose up and rebelled as nearly half the nation was at least kept together by the remaining police and loyal military to Gilani, the US and President Jindal were worried with these turn of events as this power grab of a civil war could let nuclear arms fall into the hands of terrorists and soon the US would come to the UN to say that "Pakistan has become an unstable region were a strengthened Taliban waits for the time to grab some of the nuclear arms in Pakistan and turn them on anyone they wish, this is the time to support Pakistan and President Gilani in this time of need and the US and a coalition force must be sent as peacekeepers to help the true Pakistani Government...". Peacekeepers arrived in the heavily fortified capitol of Lahore and soon the "peacekeepers" would be attacked through out the region and soon several other equation was put into the mix that if the possibility of India and China jumping in to annex portions of Pakistan, the world was possibly on the edge of the 3rd World War and people were worried and looked on across the globe as the peacekeeping in Pakistan continue to get more and more bloody and all that most people could was sit back and watch things unfold....
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« Reply #85 on: August 10, 2008, 12:07:40 AM »

I wonder why this is where the thing ends? lol
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« Reply #86 on: August 10, 2008, 03:23:52 PM »

I wonder why this is where the thing ends? lol
This isn't over I'm just been busy and on vacation so it aint over Smiley
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« Reply #87 on: August 11, 2008, 12:18:08 AM »

Well, I hope things really get "interesting"...really, really interesting.
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« Reply #88 on: October 02, 2008, 09:01:56 PM »

As the Pakistani Civil War raged, US peacekeepers and President Jindal and State Secretary Petraeus would work with possibly disabling the nuclear arms or possibly moving them to a more safe location and this would cause uproar with the Lahore Government but after haggling, nuclear sites that are "to close" to the battlefronts would be taken as others were disabled that they couldn't be used and were stripped of the deadly interworkings of the missiles. After all of this, Vice President Pawlenty would go on a speaking tour to rally support for the interventionist peacekeeping in Pakistan. In one of his speaking tours in Albany, New York as he was stepping off the platform he would be rushed by a anti war supporter and would be shot three times at near point blank range and Vice President Pawlenty would be rushed off to the hospital to be treated and after a day of fighting would succumb to the wounds as fragments would drift into his heart and kill him. President Jindal would call this "A terrible and cowardly act on the White House for defending a democratic nation". The growing angered liberals and libertarian Republicans would put there possible names into the mix of a new VP for Jindal, but the ruling conservatives would put there own possibles to President Jindal and a fight would begin. Jindal and Secretary Huckabee would try and mediate the bickering and Jindal would say in plainest thing "What about Secretary Petraeus?" but this was beaten down by some as putting someone that will support Jindal in the White House but after bickering, Ambassador John Huntsman Jr would be decided upon and would pass through Congress and would become the 49th Vice President of the United States.

-Ambassador Jon Huntmans, now Vice President Huntsman.

2015 rolled around as several bills were beaten down by the Democrats in Congress like the outlandish one of a chemical castration for sex offenders and having Jindal called a "Nazi" by many for this. All of this was a continual setbacks for President Jindal and this would continue to add to him declaring that he wouldn't run again in 2016' and would endorse Vice President Huntsman for the Republican nomination but it would soon be crowded bunch challenging the incumbent VP. As for the Democrats a strong "Draft Warner" and "Draft Governor Obama" would begin and after some process both would throw there hats into the ring as Obama gained many key endorsements like Bill Richardson, Joe Biden, Russ Feingold and the Democratic Change Caucus but Mark Warner but be quickly behind. In Obama's first speech for his run for 16' he would declare "It's time to end the continual interventionalist regime and bring stability, we need someone that can lead from both isles, it's time for change..."

Republican Candidates 016'
-Vice President Jon Huntsman Jr (Utah)
-Former Governor Haley Barbour (Mississippi)
-Senator Richard Burr (North Carolina)
-Representative Shelly Capito (West Virginia)
-Senator Jimmy Duncan (Tennessee)

Democratic Candidates 016'
-Governor Barack Obama (Illinois)
-Senator Mark Warner (Virginia)
-Former Governor Bill Schweitzer (Montana)
-Governor Gavin Newsom (California)
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« Reply #89 on: October 04, 2008, 09:04:47 PM »

What a depressing insight into the future.

4 straight Republican terms!
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« Reply #90 on: October 04, 2008, 09:07:35 PM »

Now my take:

President McCain?
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« Reply #91 on: October 04, 2008, 09:33:20 PM »

Yes I know but I'm thinking of having a President Obama! timeline though it's still going to be a shakey Obama Administration. Also a hint, hint, wink, wink, the Republicans are gonna hit a snag and it will hurt there chances for reelection in 2016 and this could very be the Democrats year to finally retake the White House.
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« Reply #92 on: October 04, 2008, 09:36:28 PM »

June 18th, 2015 would have the Republican Candidate Debate and it would set the stage for the candidates. Vice President Huntsman would say that he wanted "To carry on the Republican Party, from 2001 to 2015, from Bush to Jindal we've had 14 years of governing and I want to continue that to 2021" as for Barbour he would say that "Mister Huntsman has move on key issue to the center and I believe in family values and true conservatism, I'll be a strong candidate in 2016". For Burr he would say that he support former President McCain in 2008 and he wanted to bring the strong leadership back into the White House as McCain did, Capito would call that "The center and liberals have had no voice after the stalwart Conservative takeover in 2013 and I want to bring back some Rockefeller Republicanism" and Representative Duncan would say "My friend Ron Paul called for a withdraw from Iraq in 2008, what are we doing about Iraq and Afghanistan and why are we not pulling out troops to aid the defence of Pakistan?". In the plainest analysis Huntsman was a mover to the central positions on some parts, Barbour is a conservative, Burr wishes strong leadership again, Capito wants liberalism back and Duncan is more of a anti war, pro pullout of Iraq/Afghanistan candidate. Vice President Huntsman would win the debate with the "major" contender coming from Haley Barbour.

August 16th, 2015: The Ames Straw Poll
- Through out the 2016 Republican run for the nomination Vice President Huntsman would not be in doubt for any real challenge for the nomination as 66 year old Haley Barbour was the only real challenge. Huntsman woud have a 56% to Barbour's 28%, making Huntsman with a 20%+ over Barbour as Burr would have a dismall 9% and was said that he hadn't found a strong supporter base as Duncan would tap some of the strong grassroots and "Anti-ists" or Anti War supporters, Capito would have a mere 1% but on a interview on Meet The Press would say that she wasn't looking for a win in Iowa, instead in New Hampshire.

1st - Jon Huntsman Jr - 56%
2nd - Haley Barbour - 28%
3rd - Richard Burr - 9%
4th - Jimmy Duncan - 6%
5th - Shelly Capito - 1%

September 15th, 2015 would have the Democratic Candidate Debate in New York City and Governor Obama would stand for the "CHANGE" candidate for president again as Warner would hold a southern populist/centrist with some appeal to independents, Schweitzer was a western centrist and Newsom was a "True Liberal" candidate. Through this Governor Newsom would come off "testy" in some ways as he would call that "Have we forgot about the Kyoto Accords? What are we doing to benefit the environment!". Both the three other candidates would have the same thing in mind, America was moving forward in renewable energy as Ford and several other automobile companies had began to produce solar powered cars and continued to crank out the Bolts and Shocks. Through the debate Governor Obama would do exceptionally well and would be hailed as the winner as the debate.

October, Possible Matchups: With Obama's push for the nomination and his polls showing him 2% behind Huntsman was a boost but Warner's appeal to independents would make a hypothetical deadlock between the two as Schweitzer was about 5% from Huntsman as Newsom was seen as to liberal to some and he was 9% behind Huntsman in a hypothetical. Smaller polls for a hypothetical would show that any other candidate other than Huntsman would not win the election as Barbour would turn away some liberals and centrists and Duncan would turn away a large chunk of the conservative base.

Huntsman (48%), Obama (46%), Other (6%)
Huntsman (48%), Warner(48%), Other (4%)
Huntsman (50%), Schweitzer (46%), Other (4%)
Huntsman (52%), Newsom (43%), Other (5%)

Barbour (43%), Obama (53%), Other (4%)
Duncan (40%), Obama (56%), Other (4%)
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