In a Different Texas

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After the journey to Washington DC, rebel President Abraham Lincoln would be put on trial by the Supreme Court, only having some support from Samuel Nelson, the Supreme Court would charge Abraham Lincoln with treason against the United States and order him death by hanging. The time was 4:17 and the date was July 6Th 1865 and the nation had celebrated its 82nd birthday only two days earlier but today would be the day that Abraham Lincoln would be hanged, he would write in a journal he had "I have seen a many things in this nation, but for most I have seen the flame of justice, the small glimmer of a new hope for this nation and there must be something new in this country for I fear the problems will only become greater and the people's liberties will be trampled on for a years to come, I hoe that my friends and family will carry on this ember of liberty after my flame has been extinguished today...". Reluctantly President Douglas and First Lady Adele C. Douglas would go to Ford's Theater to see the play Our American Cousin, with the American Civil War now over for several months now, it would seem that it was over, but after only 90 minutes into the play, there would be two shots echo from the Presidential Box as President Stephen Douglas was slumped over and in horrible pain as the bullet had been shot into his skull while Vice President Hershel Johnson wasn't moving and was slumped on the floor, the perpetrator of this was Mary Todd Lincoln, the wife of Abraham Lincoln. The presidents guard Henry Rathbone would storm into the box and take Mary Todd Lincoln into custody as she was rambling on about how "The government took my husband, they took him from me!" . President Douglas would be rushed to a nearby saloon by the name of  Tartavul's Saloon and would be kept there for an agonizing fight for life, he would die only one day later. With the President and Vice President dead the President Pro Tempore of the Senate was next in line for the presidency and Robert M.T. Hunter would become the 15Th President of the United States on February 9Th 1866.

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Another post is coming up soon but I need some help, who buys Alaska if the US turns it down?

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Britain

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Britain

There actually some mistrust between Russia and Britain so they might not sell it to Britain but it's top number one on the seller's list for Alaska but does anyone else have any other ideas who could buy Alaska?

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Here is several possible nations Alaska could go to

1. Britain
2. France
3. Spain
4. Texas
5. California
6. Russia (they keep it)
7. Japan (possibly in the future)
8. USA (possibly in the future)

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15Th President Robert Hunter(1866-1869)Democratic

After being sworn in as president on February 9Th, he would tell the nation "The mending of the US had begun, with the tragic passing of both President Douglas and Vice President Johnson and with a Civil War that has open wounds, we must continue the healing process". Hunter would be at odds with the Republicans with his ferocious hunt for the remaining Cascadian rebel leaders, this would force many from hiding and head to Canada but with the help of the Whigs he was able to keep control in the House and the Senate during his administration. Irish American rebels would lead raids into Canada called the "Fenian Raids", Hunter would jail them immediately, he would soon face financial troubles and after several attempts by Texas to purchase the Indian Territory, he would sell it to Texas for 2 million. Another possible land grab for the United States came from the Russian held territory of Alaska, it would be offered to the US for a large lump sum of money, but the price of Alaska would cancel out the money they gained when they sold the Indian Territory to Texas, so President Hunter would decline the offer and several other nations would try and vie for the arctic icebox.

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Constructive Criticism.


Any war fought in Cascadia at that time period would have looked nothing like the actual American Civil War.

First off, the nature of the region itself would have made set piece battles almost impossible.  Without large populations, large farms, developed transportation routes, etc all, how would either side, but especially the United States, be able to afford to field a large, concentrated army, of any kind, in one place?  The famrs around the area would have been barely enough to sustain the locals, and their forces, let alone an invading Federal Army, and so your conception of a "March to the Sea" likely couldn't have occurred.

The best way to move troops into the area probably would have been by ship onto the West Coast, but even that is a dicey prospect, as you would have to move the entire US Navy, which wasn't very impressive at the time, all the way around South America, then back up.  A very dangerous, very time consuming journey.  By the time they landed, half the men would be diseased.  And even then, it would have taken years to build up a force of just 40,000 or so.

Most likely, the Cascadians would endeavor to fight a guerrilla war, with a very important battles, but by that I mean more along the size of Glorieta Pass, or some of the other battles fought in the Trans-Mississippi Theater.  Certainly nothing even approaching the size of even the smaller battles in the Virginia campaigns.

As such, many of the big name generals we associate with the Civil War would have been terrible choices to lead the effort.  Most of the commanders who rose to prominence would be old Indian fighters; men like John Buford.  Lee and Grant wouldn't even make it to the radar.  And the Army would probably be more immersed in political appointments under a Douglas Administration than under Lincoln in the real TL, and they would have been even less effective in the first few years.

The British almost certainly would have become involved at a high level.  They always fears U.S. invasion of Canada, particularly on the Pacific Coast.  Denying them access to that coast altogether in favor of a small, non-threatening power, would be very much in their interests.  The French, in the meantime, would probably jump into help, hoping to get Mexico established before the U.S. threatened to activate the Monroe Doctrine on old Maximilian.

The war itself could last as long as a decade, or longer, assuming Britain and France decided not to jump in, as the U.S. would have no effective way of gaining support for the cause, getting men to fight the rebels, or supplying them once they got there.  In contrast, the Cascadians would at least have access to Pacific trade routes, and major home field advantage would keep them in the hunt.

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Constructive Criticism.


Any war fought in Cascadia at that time period would have looked nothing like the actual American Civil War.

First off, the nature of the region itself would have made set piece battles almost impossible.  Without large populations, large farms, developed transportation routes, etc all, how would either side, but especially the United States, be able to afford to field a large, concentrated army, of any kind, in one place?  The famrs around the area would have been barely enough to sustain the locals, and their forces, let alone an invading Federal Army, and so your conception of a "March to the Sea" likely couldn't have occurred.

The best way to move troops into the area probably would have been by ship onto the West Coast, but even that is a dicey prospect, as you would have to move the entire US Navy, which wasn't very impressive at the time, all the way around South America, then back up.  A very dangerous, very time consuming journey.  By the time they landed, half the men would be diseased.  And even then, it would have taken years to build up a force of just 40,000 or so.

Most likely, the Cascadians would endeavor to fight a guerrilla war, with a very important battles, but by that I mean more along the size of Glorieta Pass, or some of the other battles fought in the Trans-Mississippi Theater.  Certainly nothing even approaching the size of even the smaller battles in the Virginia campaigns.

As such, many of the big name generals we associate with the Civil War would have been terrible choices to lead the effort.  Most of the commanders who rose to prominence would be old Indian fighters; men like John Buford.  Lee and Grant wouldn't even make it to the radar.  And the Army would probably be more immersed in political appointments under a Douglas Administration than under Lincoln in the real TL, and they would have been even less effective in the first few years.

The British almost certainly would have become involved at a high level.  They always fears U.S. invasion of Canada, particularly on the Pacific Coast.  Denying them access to that coast altogether in favor of a small, non-threatening power, would be very much in their interests.  The French, in the meantime, would probably jump into help, hoping to get Mexico established before the U.S. threatened to activate the Monroe Doctrine on old Maximilian.

The war itself could last as long as a decade, or longer, assuming Britain and France decided not to jump in, as the U.S. would have no effective way of gaining support for the cause, getting men to fight the rebels, or supplying them once they got there.  In contrast, the Cascadians would at least have access to Pacific trade routes, and major home field advantage would keep them in the hunt.

It's alright about criticism, Britain and France don't join because Britain see's this as a way to weaken and hold back the US while France is more worried about Texas using their version of the Monroe Doctrine. I haven't posted most of this yet and as for the Civil War I was trying to mirror it with the Civil War in the South and there are still large flare ups of rebellion in Northwest years after the "official" end of the Civil War.

As for the generals sorry about that, could you help me with them, some possibles under a Douglas Administration, there's the Election of 1868 coming up.

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Possible Generals during the American Civil War
-John James Peck
-Don Carlos Buell
-Lucius Fairchild
-William Harney
-Stephen Hurlbut
-Braxton Bragg
-George McCall
-Jesse Reno
-William Sherman
-David Twiggs

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The Election of 1868 would have two military leaders running under the Republican and Democratic parties while a dying Whigs nominated virtual unknowns Pennsylvania Governor Andrew Curtin and Representitive John Creswell. The Republicans had only a few candidates running for the nomination, General William Sherman was the major factor, gaining much support in the Republican party as only several favorite sons would challenge him. The Democrats would nominate Don Carlos Buell on the 5th Ballot after beating out President Robert Hunter and George Pendleton.


William Sherman/Schuyler Colfax(167 EV 41%)
Don Carlos Buell/Thomas Marshall(113 EV 37%)
Andrew Curtin/John Creswell(23 EV 22%)

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16Th President William T. Sherman(1869-)Republican

After a suprise victory for the Republicans and only having to loose Pennsylvania to loose the election, but this didn't happen and now President Sherman gets to work on his plans, he would put even more pressure on the Occupied Cascadian Territories and would oversee the control Cascadia to become completely dominated by the Bourbon Democrats. The occupation of Cascadia would become even stricter after President Sherman officially suspended the Constitution in the occupied Cascadia and had a Occupation Governor implaced by the President, making him an extension of the President. Things were happening in the US, William Sherman had just past a law officially making Christmas a federal holiday and it seem that the US was slowly climbing over the Civil War and the rebellions that followed. Britain had not taken it's chance to effectively cripple the US during the Civil War and now with growing national pride and Sherman's ideas of a expansion across the Pacific and Atlantic had them on the defensive, they would continue to pump in more weapons smuggled down from Canada to the remaining Cascadian rebels. As smuggling activities continued under former Cascadian President LaFayette McMullen, these weapon runners major convoy lines were discovered and with this the British involvement was found to be true, President Sherman would be quite outraged and say that if the British Empire doesn't halt the continued weapons and money laundering to the traitorous Cascadian rebels, this will be an act of aggression against the United States, Britain began to mobilize forces along the US/Canada border, Britain had made up it's mind now it's the US turn and on March 12Th they would pass a declaration of war against Britain, the War of 1871 had begun.

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TEXAS: The 1860's

As the US struggled with the slavery issue, Texas would also have to face slavery, the eastern Texas mainly centered in Fredonia and parts of Jacinto but in land mass, slavery was only about two/fifths of the makeup of Texas. As the US solved the slavery issue for a long while by the Douglas Pact, the Lone Star and Whigs would try and pass a Texan version of the Pact but it would fail. The Federal District of Austin was the first of abolitionism in Texas, under Austin Mayor B.F. Carter would pass the Federal District Abolition Act, it was a unpleasant law for the Expansionists but with the help of President Sam Houston it would quiet the slavery storm for a short while. The boiling point hit when President Mirabeau Lamar died in 1860, letting loose numerous other Radical Expansionists try and vie for the power vacuum in the party and this new generation of leaders of the Expansionist are under the sway of slavery and the new immigrant Americans from the southern states. In the final days of the third presidency of Sam Houston(1859-1862), Houston would try and begin to end the slave trade into Texas and as a result, angered the Expansionist and many slave holders about this. The short lived Texan Slavery War or the Texan Civil War would be waged after a Radical Expansionist by the name of Louis Wigfall would use the Texan Constitution against the law imposed on the Slave Trade from the US, in Wigfall's word's "They take our slaves today, tomorrow our freedom!", this became a rallying cry for Pro Slavery Texans and after a flash point began when Secessionist Texan rebels took control of a portion of an outlying part of Nachadoches, Texan forces would take on the rebels and defeat them easily but a small force of 18 southern immigrants came to the rebels to late and found the Texan army instead a bloody skirmish began and left all but 6 of them dead. Angered by this, pro slavery supporters began to take up arms against the Texan government. After the much disputed Texan Election of 1862, Lone Star Representative John Hancock would be elected the 10Th President of Texas over Louis Wigfall and former President Elisha Pease of the Whigs. Pro Slavery Texans would begin to rally around Louis Wigfall but many weren't about to actually take up arms at the time but Wigfall would call on "All that wish to continue to protect the Texan Constitution against devilish scalawags as John Hancock and Sam Houston, bring arms against this corrupted federal government...". Raids and skirmishes would flare up in towns and cities like Paris, Nachadoches and Galveston, but these were only small compared to a real battle and only having at least a few hundred(100-250) troops usually under the command of the Texas Rebels or "Wigfall Crusaders". President Hancock would become more worried after the southerners from the United States that were beginning to get weapons and troops and sending them to the Wigfall Rebels, as a result, Texan troops would be stationed all along the eastern border between Texas and the US, it would anger people on both sides of the border. The Rebellion would last from 1862 to 1864, it would change the Texan people and set the stage for the coming of the emancipation of slavery in the upcoming 1870's.

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Right now I'm working on a new post about the 1871 War, but right now I need a list of British officers who could fight in the 1871 War, I need Brits who could lead forces on the sea and on the land and Americans that can fight in the war also. Could anyone come up with a list of generals and admirals please?

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I'm still hoping for a list of Admirals and Generals for the 1871 War, but for now here's more info on what happened to Texas during the 1860's.

Texan Election of 1865
As the Slavery issue began to cool, incumbent President John Hancock would run for reelection, becoming the first to do this against the Expansionist candidate John Hemphill, a more moderate or liberal Expansionist and Secretary of State under the Independent presidency of Sam Houston(1859-1862). Hemphill would paint him as a different candidate a "change" candidate of sorts, working to balance slavery in Texas, expand women's sufferage and he was a expert on Mexican and Spanish law. The 1865 election had a six point margin of victory over John Hancock by John Hemphill.

11th Texan President John Hemphill


The presidency of John Hemphill was a golden age for Texas, after arriving through the tumultuous years of the Texan Rebellion, this would be a change of parties and a change of ideals for Texas. Some Radical Expansionist would try and push Hemphill to pardon Louis Wigfall from jail but bluntly refused. President John Hemphill and Californian President John Bigler began to lay out the foundation of the International railroad that would link Texas and California, before this many of the Texan railroads were centered in Fredonia and parts of Jacinto and Rio Grande. As it seem that Texas was coming into a golder age, after several attempts by former President Hancock and now President John Hemphill would work and the Indian Territory would be purchased for about 2 million. As his popularity surged ahead, the Electoral College Act of 1867, that would give more strength to the electoral college, which was still in it's infancy then. The ideals of Manifest Destiny would sound out once again over the Republic, a new expansion of their borders would come from the possibility of annexing Santo Domingo but for now election day approaches.

Texan Election of 1868
Some former contenders from 1865 would fiddle with a run for the Expansionist Party nomination against incumbent John Hemphill, one was the main challenger from 1865 the lawyer Felix Young, none of them would run and would let John Hemphill be easily nominated. The Lone Star Party and the Whigs would join and nominate Lemuel Evans and J.H. Lyons on a fusion ticket for the election. The Election would have the first time the Electoral College was used, a crude version but it worked, Fredonia had 4 electors, Jacinto had 3 and Rio Grande had 2, there was some debate to give a elector to the Federal District of Austin but this would not happen. Hemphill won the Electoral College and the Popular vote.

E-John Hemphill/Edward Clark(55% EV 6)
L/W-Lemuel Evans/J.H. Lyons(45% EV 3)

President John Hemphill's Second Term(1868-1871)
After only a short while after being inaugurated for his second term, Santo Domingo would have a offer to Texas by their president Buenaventura Báez that if Texas would pay 1 million to Santo Domingo, the nation would be annexed to the Republic of Texas. Expansionist were in powere and jumped for this, it easily was passed in the House and Senate and approved by President Hemphill, on June 30th, 1869  San Domingo was officially annexed to Texas. Other things happened during the years, there was a fight to repeal the Electoral College Act of 1867 in 1870 but this was defeated but the Electoral College was still unfavored by many people, the International Railroad, the "Republic" Railroad began to near completion finally after a suprising 6 years. John Hemphill would be mainly known as the "Great Annexer" having Santo Domingo and the Indian Territory come under control of Texas in his 6 years in office.

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Anyone have any questions?

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Britain had a difference to the US, under a peaceful Prime Minister and lax look on the US, it had been surprised as how many of the Americans had supported President Sherman. Britain had William Gladstone as their Prime Minister, a man that had supported the Cascadians during the Civil War and had a foreign affairs were that to "promote peace and understanding" this was laughable as the 1871 War began. Prime Minister William Gladstone had said the war would be a countdown to the 1872 Presidential Election in the United States, that Britain would demoralize the American people and military to hopefully swing the election to a peace Democrat in 1872. As the Franco-Prussian War raged in Europe, the Royal Navy began there move towards the United States in hopes of a blockade and aiding Canadian and British forces fighting on the land. First movement by both sides were the invasion of Upper New York, Vermont and New Hampshire in a hope to secure a foothold and conquest of the Hudson River in the near future, the main bloody battles would be fought on the Great Lakes and also to hold back the American armies from taking the Canadian capitol of Ottawa and Toronto.

Battles ranged from the 2nd Battle of Lundy's Lane to the bloody Battle of the Champlain Canal. British and Canadian forces swarmed through upper Maine with only minor skirmishes at first until the British began to use the Maine coast as a jumping off point for a British invasion of Boston and after a failed invasion of Boston, the US would force the British from the Maine coast for now. The war on the Great Lakes would have numerous battles on Lake Erie and Lake Ottawa, a daring British forces invaded Cleveland, Ohio and burned numerous parts of the city down and quickly left, this would be a common use with both sides to quickly raid each others cities and usually burn down parts of the cities as well.

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As the 1871 War was underway, the 1872 Election had come to the United States. Incumbent William T. Sherman had to drop his incumbent Vice President Schuyler Colfax because of his embroilment in the Crédit Mobilier of America scandal, the search for a new Vice President soon got underway. The Democrats tried for the White House with Fernando Wood, a former NYC mayor and now Representative from New York as a compromise candidate with Lyman Trumbull as his Vice President. At the Republican Convention in Philadelphia, the major task was to nominate a new Vice President and incumbent Schuyler Colfax would still run but a upstart Ohio Governor James Comly pulled a small margin of victory over him and they officially nominated the Sherman/Comly ticket. As for the Whig Party, there staunch Unionism had been for the Civil War time but there support had eroded away from year to year, to try and gain more support they would change to the "National" Whig Party and to bolster more candidates, several Republicans that wished to run for the presidency but didn't want to run against a incumbent decided to run for the National Whig's nomination. The major candidates were Andrew Curtin, Charles F. Adams, Horace Greeley and Benjamin G. Brown. After debating over it, Horace Greeley and Benjamin Brown.

The Election of 1872

William Sherman/James Comly(43% 183 EV)
Fernando Wood/Lyman Trumbull(34% 113 EV)
Horace Greeley/Benjamin Brown(23% 43 EV)

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As William Tecumseh Sherman was reelected to the presidency, the British idea of an election of a Peace Democrat was crushed and so they went to the next viable option they would bring the hammer down on the United States. The first bloody assaults were  when the Royal Navies swarmed the Coast of Maine and Massachusetts, Battles ensued at the 2nd Battle of Boston, the Battle of Rock Coast had the US repulse both of these attacks but with many casualties because of it. The British would begin a campaign against the US held northwestern Pacific Coast, most of the force would be naval and the British was far superior to the small number of American vessels there, at the same time the few docks and ports for the US ships were ether taken or damaged by the Cascadian rebels and a crushing defeat of the American forces was there and the Royal Navy sailed to the coast with many of the residents welcoming them there in hopes of sovereignty.

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I'll be posting soon again, maybe tomorrow or Monday since I'm on July 4Th vacation.

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Well I'm back!

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I'll begin posting soon.

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1874 had bloody effects on New England, with the  British shelling much of the bordering areas, Burlington would be nearly shelled out of existence just as it had been during the War of 1812. As troops marched through New Hampshire, Vermont and Maine, Americans soldiers were mainly stationed to defend New York or Massachusetts in the Northeast, after this Vermont Governor Asahel Peck would continue to try and push for soldiers but they wouldn't come until the British had pushed their way to the southern part of Upper New England.

In mid August, American forces broke through the Niagara peninsula and made their move towards Toronto and the Canadian capitol of Ottawa. American naval ships to try and storm the "Golden Horseshoe" in a hopeful attempt to close in on Ottawa with two American  forces. After the American breakthroughs in the Niagara campaign, Britain would make their move again at the 2nd Battle of Boston were after a bloody battle lasting several days would lead to a British victory and they now had New York City in their eyes now. New Englanders cries of peace went unnoticed by President Sherman.

The new Cascadian front was terrible for the Americans, with British and Cascadians working together, they easily secured the west coast and sealed it off from the US. France had been talking about joining the war on the United States side but they would now wait until the Americans would win a decisive victory against the British. With the 1871 War raging, the political machine started up for the Congressional Elections of 1874:

House Results:
Republicans: 132 (-37)
Democrat: 129 (+36)
Whig: 7 (-1)
Greenback: 2 (+2)

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After the loses in New England and the Cascaidian region and with the fall of the port city of Boston and now the British have their eyes set on a complete invasion of both New York City and Washington D.C. to effectively end the war and force a peace out of America. Now as the Presidential Election was coming and Republicans were pushing President Sherman to run for a third term as the president. With the looses continuing, America only needed one major victory to gain the aid from France and this would come from the Battle of Long Island. As Britain began there invasion of New York City and the Hudson River, the US had invested in the creation of the Ironclads and the most important, the U.S.S. Oliver Hazard under the command of George H. Perkins and after a fierce fight on both the land and the sea the victory would be able to pump some pride and vigor into the American people and as well as some hope. Soon enough France would declare war on Britain and ally themselves with the US, this war now was becoming completely different.