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ATFFL
Junior Chimp
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« on: September 01, 2004, 11:57:13 PM »


That was pre-9/11.  Lots of things changed on 9/11.

Havng come late to this thread I would like to state that the first person who said Kerry hates America was HockeyDude.  Total strawman argument, I am stunned nobody else caught it.

The argument was if Kerry thinks the US as it is now is a force for evil in the world.  You can think that the US is currently a force for evil and try to change that.  THinking America's actions are evil does not equal hating America.
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ATFFL
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2004, 10:58:28 AM »

He certainly believed the US was a force for evil in Veitnam.

Again, opposing a military action = hating America.

Strawman.  No one but Democrats are saying hating America.  Thinking your nations actions are evil does not equal hating America, and no one is equating the two but some Democrats.  Namely Hockeydude and you, Tweed.
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ATFFL
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2004, 05:52:44 PM »


Strawman.  No one but Democrats are saying hating America.  Thinking your nations actions are evil does not equal hating America, and no one is equating the two but some Democrats.  Namely Hockeydude and you, Tweed.

Must I show you Zell Miller's words again?

"John Kerry came back from Vietnam as a man unsure of whether America was a force of good or evil in the world, and still is unsure of whether America is a force of good or evil in the world."

You can think your nation is a force for evil and still love it.  If you do, you will try and change it, which Kerry then did.

No one is saying he hated America except for a few Democrats.

Makes you wonder.
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