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« on: July 27, 2008, 06:25:34 PM »

I imagine this has already been done before, but I was curious as to what you guys would estimate Obama, McCain, Clinton, Paul, and any other presidential candidates' scores on the Political Matrix to be. Just for kicks.
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« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2008, 06:36:57 PM »

Are we talking the primary election Obama or the General Election Obama?  Smiley
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« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2008, 06:43:27 PM »

I'm Barack Obama and I just took the test, and here are the results. One can see, that one cannot be too public about taking socially liberal positions.

Economic score: -6.45
Social score: +0.52
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« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2008, 06:47:35 PM »

If it helps, you could use their legislative voting records as an indicator. Campaign rhetoric as a metric like ...well, measuring the length of toilet paper you used to determine the weight of the sh**t you just took.
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War on Want
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« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2008, 06:49:04 PM »

Economic score: -4.65
Social score: +0.7

Your score pegs you as economically moderately leftist and socially centrist.

Moderate economic leftists generally support regulation of free trade and business to assure that workers are fairly treated and prices remain stable.

Social centrists generally believe in a mix of individual liberties and controls, corresponding to what they see as moral or best for society.


Yeah I agree with Torie, Obama can't position his social stuff well.
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« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2008, 06:53:05 PM »

Obama :

Economic : -8
Social : -7
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« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2008, 06:55:49 PM »

Obama:

Social -0.5
Economic -5.0

McCain:

Social 1.0
Economic 3.5
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« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2008, 07:03:20 PM »

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« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2008, 07:06:51 PM »

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I don't really buy either, especially Obama's economic score, which puts him slightly to the right of Xahar, but I tried to be true to their campaign positions.
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« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2008, 07:43:45 PM »
« Edited: July 27, 2008, 08:05:00 PM by Cassidy »

McCain:

Economic score: +1.16
Social score: +4.00

Obama:

Economic score: -3.23
Social score: +0.52

Barr:

Economic score: +7.61
Social score: -0.52
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« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2008, 07:47:21 PM »

Why is it so difficult to get a major candidate with a negative social score?
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« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2008, 08:01:58 PM »

I'm not seeing how McCain is getting strongly positive economic scores considering his stances on education funding, affirmative action, environmental regulation, foreign aid, etc.
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« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2008, 08:04:08 PM »

I'm not seeing how McCain is getting strongly positive economic scores considering his stances on education funding, affirmative action, environmental regulation, foreign aid, etc.
Just today he flipp flopped on affirmative action.
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« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2008, 08:06:26 PM »
« Edited: July 27, 2008, 08:15:38 PM by Cassidy »

I'm not seeing how McCain is getting strongly positive economic scores considering his stances on education funding, affirmative action, environmental regulation, foreign aid, etc.
Just today he flipp flopped on affirmative action.
Meh, he flipped on taxes too. The only way to know where McCain really stands a lot of the time is his voting record. Although in fairness at least that was backed by actual votes (stupid as it may be).
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« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2008, 08:16:17 PM »


That chart is nonsense, like all other PC charts on world leaders. The idea that Ralph Nader is the least authoritarian candidate is beyond laughable.
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« Reply #15 on: July 27, 2008, 08:20:22 PM »

What's dumber is where they put Gravel and Richardson on the chart. Giuliani too, for that matter.
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« Reply #16 on: July 27, 2008, 08:35:27 PM »


That graph is ridiculous, as are the measurements of leader's PM scores.  Note how the PM scores chosen by those groups never match up with the PM scores of the people who support them.

According to that thing, Dennis Kucinich should be my guy.
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« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2008, 08:36:19 PM »


That graph is ridiculous, as are the measurements of leader's PM scores.  Note how the PM scores chosen by those groups never match up with the PM scores of the people who support them.

I really 100% agree
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« Reply #18 on: July 27, 2008, 09:06:05 PM »


That chart is nonsense, like all other PC charts on world leaders. The idea that Ralph Nader is the least authoritarian candidate is beyond laughable.

Perhaps, but for Obama and McCain, I'd say it was quite accurate. Obama would be considered a conservative in many countries.
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« Reply #19 on: July 28, 2008, 02:34:31 PM »

Obama: E -2.19, S 0.87
McCain: E 0.65, S 0.87

There really isn't that much of a difference.
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« Reply #20 on: July 28, 2008, 08:49:59 PM »

Obama: E: +2.50 S: +5.21
McCain: E: +5.00, S: +7.85
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