Barack Obama

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

I like Ariail's carttons

[dazzleman]

Actually Carter only had 4 years as Governor of Georgia, and I'd argue that his inexperience showed when he got into office.

Experience is important in being a succesful President, although I'd argue it is nearly irrelevant in terms of being a succesful candidate.

It takes a different kind of experience to be a successful candidate than it does to be a successful president, at least to some degree.  So I wouldn't really say that experience is irreleavant to getting elected.

And there is a great deal of overlap in the type of experience.  A candidate who is good at selling himself to the voters to get elected may also be good at selling his legislative program to the voters.  This type of experience won't necessarily help on the executive side, or in deriving good programs, though.

[Reaganfan]

Obama's major problem is that he's peaking now.  If he sits in the senate for another 4 years, he won't have the momentum to win the nomination.  Add to that the fact that Democrats will (knock on wood) probably win the White House in '08.

There's no better time than now for Obama.

There's no other time than now for Obama.

That said, if Obama enters the race, barring Gore running, Obama becomes a big contender for the status of "anti-hillary."  Kerry, Biden, and Dodd at this point have no chance.

The race comes down to Richardson, Bayh, Obama, Edwards, maybe Clark, and Hillary.  One will be the nominee, and odds are one will be VP.

How it shakes out depends on what happens this November.

Democrats win back both houses, Hillary and Obama gain.

Democrats fail miserably, Bayh, Richardson and Edwards gain.

I hope Obama runs, if only to make it more dramatic

You think the Democrats are going to win the White House in 2008?

[Defarge]

Obama's major problem is that he's peaking now.  If he sits in the senate for another 4 years, he won't have the momentum to win the nomination.  Add to that the fact that Democrats will (knock on wood) probably win the White House in '08.

There's no better time than now for Obama.

There's no other time than now for Obama.

That said, if Obama enters the race, barring Gore running, Obama becomes a big contender for the status of "anti-hillary."  Kerry, Biden, and Dodd at this point have no chance.

The race comes down to Richardson, Bayh, Obama, Edwards, maybe Clark, and Hillary.  One will be the nominee, and odds are one will be VP.

How it shakes out depends on what happens this November.

Democrats win back both houses, Hillary and Obama gain.

Democrats fail miserably, Bayh, Richardson and Edwards gain.

I hope Obama runs, if only to make it more dramatic

You think the Democrats are going to win the White House in 2008?

I'd say it's 60-40 in the dems favor right now.  But who can say?

[Nym90]

Obama's major problem is that he's peaking now.  If he sits in the senate for another 4 years, he won't have the momentum to win the nomination.  Add to that the fact that Democrats will (knock on wood) probably win the White House in '08.

There's no better time than now for Obama.

There's no other time than now for Obama.

That said, if Obama enters the race, barring Gore running, Obama becomes a big contender for the status of "anti-hillary."  Kerry, Biden, and Dodd at this point have no chance.

The race comes down to Richardson, Bayh, Obama, Edwards, maybe Clark, and Hillary.  One will be the nominee, and odds are one will be VP.

How it shakes out depends on what happens this November.

Democrats win back both houses, Hillary and Obama gain.

Democrats fail miserably, Bayh, Richardson and Edwards gain.

I hope Obama runs, if only to make it more dramatic

You think the Democrats are going to win the White House in 2008?

I'd say it's 60-40 in the dems favor right now.  But who can say?

At this point, given Bush's approval ratings, the Democrats have to be considered favored. However, a lot can change in two years. But looking at things as they stand now, the Democrats would have to be considered more likely than not just due to the political environment, which could just as easily get worse for the Republicans as it could get better.

I truly believe that Bush's approval ratings and the general sense of whether we are on the right track or wrong track is what will most likely decide the 2008 election, not the views or ideologies of the individual candidates. The candidates and their campaigns will make some difference, but not more than say 3-5 percentage points either way (assuming obviously that someone like Sharpton or Tancredo isn't nominated, which obviously they won't be).

[Dr. Cynic]

According to what the climate says, there's a big chance the Democrats will take the White House in 2008. Of course, there is always the chance that the Republicans will pull it out, but given the energy levels, and the prospect of a win, I think Dems will show up in high numbers at the polls.

[Keystone Phil]

According to what the climate says, there's a big chance the Democrats will take the White House in 2008.

One thing you should know: Never judge a Presidential race on the climate two years before the race. Perfect example would be 1994. If anything, the climate helping the Dems this time around could help strengthen the GOP for 2008.

[Tender Branson]

ROFLZ @ this ...

[Tyrion The Unbanned]

good catch, this is hilarious

[Edu]

Reading this now it's like reading the comedy goldmine lol

[Marokai Backbeat]

According to what the climate says, there's a big chance the Democrats will take the White House in 2008.

One thing you should know: Never judge a Presidential race on the climate two years before the race. Perfect example would be 1994. If anything, the climate helping the Dems this time around could help strengthen the GOP for 2008.

Another classic prediction from SagePhil.

[Iosif]

This can't be happening. I went to Yahoo this afternoon and saw "Obama considering '08 run." This guy is ridiculous. Let him run and lose.

I would've gone for this myself.

This thread just illustrates that the vast majority of armchair political analysts on here really know fuck all. Which shouldn't really come as much of a surprise.

[Lunar]

[reads thread]

yes, a few fails here

[Keystone Phil]

I laughing at things with hindsight. 

If anything, this ought to be a lesson to the Obama fanatics that things aren't always as they seem years in advance. Don't get too cocky when you laugh off Palin vs. Obama...

According to what the climate says, there's a big chance the Democrats will take the White House in 2008.

One thing you should know: Never judge a Presidential race on the climate two years before the race. Perfect example would be 1994. If anything, the climate helping the Dems this time around could help strengthen the GOP for 2008.

Another classic prediction from SagePhil.

Yeah, I was kind of right. Most of us were laughing off Obama and had McCain destroying him. Maybe you guys can knock off the arrogance and learn from our mistakes.

[justfollowingtheelections]

Obama is VERY liberal.

correct.  and completely unacceptable to mainstream america.

if illinois had a republican party, he wouldnt be in the senate today.

bwahaha

[justfollowingtheelections]

Yeah, the witch comment went too far, so allow me to restate:

So, the Dems could nominate either Pantsuit Hillary Clinton, Loser TreeHugger Gore, Loser SwiftShifter Kerry...or Barack Hussein Obama! 
 ROFL!

Your raw wit and penetrating humor serves as an inspiration to us all. Thank you for your services.

I know it is hard for Dems to find humor in losing, but lose you will if you nominate any of these four.

Obama:
Barack is an Arab name.  Hussein is an Arab name.  I don't know the origin of the name Obama.  Do you think any Southern state would vote for someone named Barack?  Do you think the Jewish vote is going to go heavily to someone named Hussein?  What about the Catholic vote now that the Pope is on the Muslim hit list?  Do you think Obama is not going to be hurt from homegrown terrorism from black Muslims?  He would get KILLED in Ohio and Florida against almost any GOP potential nominee.

Kerry and Gore:
Remember, in 2000 and 2004, you Dems lost to someone who couldn’t formulate a coherent sentence.  And now you think the two losers from 2000 and 2004, Gore and Kerry, have a chance against an articulate GOP nominee in 2008?

Hillary:
The best GOP attack ad is a 30 second commercial of Hillary’s face.  Even her husband can’t stand her.  LOL!

Terrible analysis.

[justfollowingtheelections]

This can't be happening. I went to Yahoo this afternoon and saw "Obama considering '08 run." This guy is ridiculous. Let him run and lose.

Amazing!