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« Reply #150 on: April 24, 2008, 05:29:48 am »

I agree that WI was among Obama's best showing in the working class white demographics.  My point is that something has changed in Obama's draw. It is probably most pronounced among the church going.  Because the Catholic vote is significant in WI and PA, it seems a fair slice to examine.

It does not seem intellectually honest to continue believing Obamaa is as strong of a candidate as he was 60 days ago.  His negative numbers are way up.  He is not as attractive to working class whites, and white males, and church attenders as before. 
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« Reply #151 on: April 24, 2008, 06:49:15 pm »

I agree that WI was among Obama's best showing in the working class white demographics.  My point is that something has changed in Obama's draw. It is probably most pronounced among the church going.  Because the Catholic vote is significant in WI and PA, it seems a fair slice to examine.

It does not seem intellectually honest to continue believing Obamaa is as strong of a candidate as he was 60 days ago.  His negative numbers are way up.  He is not as attractive to working class whites, and white males, and church attenders as before. 

I couldn't agree more and it deeply concerns me.

This is why I wish more candidates lasted longer into the primary season.  Right out of the gate (Iowa), we lost the two best -- Dodd and Biden. 
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« Reply #152 on: April 24, 2008, 08:40:34 pm »

I agree that WI was among Obama's best showing in the working class white demographics.  My point is that something has changed in Obama's draw. It is probably most pronounced among the church going.  Because the Catholic vote is significant in WI and PA, it seems a fair slice to examine.

It does not seem intellectually honest to continue believing Obamaa is as strong of a candidate as he was 60 days ago.  His negative numbers are way up.  He is not as attractive to working class whites, and white males, and church attenders as before. 

I couldn't agree more and it deeply concerns me.

This is why I wish more candidates lasted longer into the primary season.  Right out of the gate (Iowa), we lost the two best -- Dodd and Biden. 
Not really. They weren't much than John Kerry and arguably worse.
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« Reply #153 on: April 24, 2008, 09:48:57 pm »

Three months ago, I said that Obama had the best chance of winning as the nominee; now I say Clinton does.  He's no McGovern, but he can't win this time.
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« Reply #154 on: April 25, 2008, 12:42:29 am »

I agree that WI was among Obama's best showing in the working class white demographics.  My point is that something has changed in Obama's draw. It is probably most pronounced among the church going.  Because the Catholic vote is significant in WI and PA, it seems a fair slice to examine.

It does not seem intellectually honest to continue believing Obamaa is as strong of a candidate as he was 60 days ago.  His negative numbers are way up.  He is not as attractive to working class whites, and white males, and church attenders as before. 

I couldn't agree more and it deeply concerns me.

This is why I wish more candidates lasted longer into the primary season.  Right out of the gate (Iowa), we lost the two best -- Dodd and Biden. 
Not really. They weren't much than John Kerry and arguably worse.

I can agree that Kerry was a poor candidate.  And likely, Dodd would have been too. 

But I think Kerry would have made a sensational President.  I am really surprised more Democrats don't think so.  There was certainly no one else in the 2004 Primary field with better credentials or sounder policy (from a D perspective, of course!).  Gephardt probably came close.  But again, I am talking about them as President.  Not as candidate.  Aside from Bill Clinton, I can't remember the last time Democrats fielded a decent Presidential candidate.  1968?
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« Reply #155 on: April 05, 2009, 01:26:51 am »

hahahahahhahahaha
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« Reply #156 on: April 05, 2009, 07:01:17 am »

What a joke thread!

These clowns, J.J. and motonmonkey, had absolutely no idea what they were talking about.
Concern troll doesn't even begin to describe them. 
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« Reply #157 on: April 05, 2009, 11:13:57 am »

Bye bye Florida.  If Obama even had a chance there anyway which I doubt.

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« Reply #158 on: April 06, 2009, 01:12:32 am »

I had forgotten how stupid people were during the primaries.
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« Reply #159 on: April 06, 2009, 01:46:20 am »

I had forgotten how stupid people were during the primaries.

Did you really need those last 3 words?
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« Reply #160 on: April 06, 2009, 12:54:15 pm »

Bye bye Florida.  If Obama even had a chance there anyway which I doubt.

lolz
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« Reply #161 on: April 06, 2009, 01:45:20 pm »

Bye bye Florida.  If Obama even had a chance there anyway which I doubt.

lolz
Those guys from Texas were a real hoot.
Not big fans of reality.
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