Tuesday Democratic National Convention running commentary thread

[Ronnie]

This gender pay equity thing just scares the hell out of me. It would be litigation city, as job wages cease to be dictated by the market.

Plus, minimum raise wages being shot up will just result in inflation.

[The Man From G.O.P.]

OK, good finish.



Now it's up to Obama to deliver a 2004 caliber speech.

[ZamboniDriver]

She gave a good speech.  

[Reluctant Republican]

Well, she did what she had to do, I think. If Obama loses this I don’t think it can be blamed on her.

[Torie]

This gender pay equity thing just scares the hell out of me. It would be litigation city, as job wages cease to be dictated by the market.

Well, some (and I dont necessarily agree) would say that such legislation is needed because of a market failure...assuming the woman and man are equal in all things other than gender/sex...but I agree, it would be difficult as you really can never hold so many variables constant.

I don't believe such pay disparities exist. It is not apples and oranges. The pay differentials are mostly generated by women going in and out of the job market. And this isn't about pay equity about the exact same jobs anyway, with the exact same job histories. It is about pay "fairness" for jobs in different categories, based on comparative worth. It's all toxic.

As Kristol points out, it was very generic. There was nothing personal about Obama. Just a comment that Michelle would make a great first lady. Nothing about her getting to know Obama, and thinking he was a very talented guy whom she came to respect.

[Lunar]

It seems that she's treating herself as Harriot Tubman, freeing the slaves.  It seemed almost like she was saying that she was going to keep running for president by saying that she was going and needed to "keep going" like Harriot did when the police and dogs were near.  Is Obama the dog ruining Harriot Tubman's dream?

The speech seemed forced.  It was  the minimum she needed to do to not be accused of sabotaging Obama's campaign.

[Sbane]

This is a good speech. Should help with the undecideds.

[Eraserhead]

Olbermann is jacking it right now.

[bullmoose88]

This gender pay equity thing just scares the hell out of me. It would be litigation city, as job wages cease to be dictated by the market.

Well, some (and I dont necessarily agree) would say that such legislation is needed because of a market failure...assuming the woman and man are equal in all things other than gender/sex...but I agree, it would be difficult as you really can never hold so many variables constant.

I don't believe such pay disparities exist. It is not apples and oranges. The pay differentials are mostly generated by women going in and out of the job market. And this isn't about pay equity about the exact same jobs anyway, with the exact same job histories. It is about pay fairness for jobs in different categories, based on comparative worth. It's all toxic.

I don't disagree, too bad the american people will too easily confuse the simple concept of equal resumes, equal pay (if there wasn't) with the situation you described above...pretty hard to put in an easy to remember/understand soundbite.

[YRABNNRM]

Olbermann is jacking it right now.

MSNBC has been awful the past few days and this is coming from an avid MSNBC watcher.

[Lunar]

These Koreans are tight!

[The Man From G.O.P.]

CHRIS MATTHEWS SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM THE TELEVISION


OLBERMANN TOO



GIVE ME A BREAK

[Beet]

I stopped watching MSNBC last night after about 5 minutes of grainy, boring coverage. CNN has the best coverage. It was their decision also to expand convention coverage for both parties this year-- the other networks were planning to cut back.

[Torie]

Hillary said very little about Obama on a personal level. He was just a fungible democrat. Jfern   or MSU or Eraserhead would have sufficed equally.

[Meeker]

Thank you Hillary.

Now don't eff this one up, Bill.

[Sam Spade]

Olbermann is jacking it right now.

When does he not?

[Eraserhead]

Fox is trying to spin it like she didn't do enough in the speech. I don't get that. But then again all of their analysts are Republicans...

[exopolitician]

Hillary was actually AMAZING! She totally hit this one out of the park. She did what she had to do and said what she had to say. Amazingggg.

[Torie]

This has been a great convention so far. Keep it up!

[Beet]

Hillary said very little about Obama on a personal level. He was just a fungible democrat. Jfern   or MSU or Eraserhead would have sufficed equally.

She said he built his campaign on the premise that change happens from the bottom up. That was a hat tip to him, IMO.

This has been a great convention so far. Keep it up!

Its been getting steadily better.

[Torie]

Hillary said very little about Obama on a personal level. He was just a fungible democrat. Jfern   or MSU or Eraserhead would have sufficed equally.

She said he built his campaign on the premise that change happens from the bottom up. That was a hat tip to him, IMO.

How nice. Hillary was top down I guess.

[YRABNNRM]

INSANE HILLARY SUPPORTER ON CNN

[Beet]

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Yes, at first. Just look at how they fundraised.

[Flying Dog]

Hillary was actually AMAZING! She totally hit this one out of the park. She did what she had to do and said what she had to say. Amazingggg.

^^^

I didn't realize how good she could be. People here are way over analyzing the speech. You really have to go with your gut emotion the figure out what the common (non-politico) folk think. It felt like final closure to me and probably to most Hillary supporters and a feeling of "if you vote for McCain, you're disrespecting me" in it as well. It should work for most Hillary supporters.

[WalterMitty]

the woman cnn is interviewing is a ff!