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« on: August 28, 2008, 11:10:58 AM »
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But the numbers are misleading, said John Goodman, president of the National Center for Policy Analysis, a right-leaning Dallas-based think tank. Mr. Goodman, who helped craft Sen. John McCain's health care policy, said anyone with access to an emergency room effectively has insurance, albeit the government acts as the payer of last resort. (Hospital emergency rooms by law cannot turn away a patient in need of immediate care.)

"So I have a solution. And it will cost not one thin dime," Mr. Goodman said. "The next president of the United States should sign an executive order requiring the Census Bureau to cease and desist from describing any American – even illegal aliens – as uninsured. Instead, the bureau should categorize people according to the likely source of payment should they need care.

"So, there you have it. Voila! Problem solved."

Mr. Goodman's analysis drew a sharp response from the Center for Public Policy Priorities, an Austin-based think tank focusing on poverty issues. "That is not the same thing as having health insurance," said Eva Deluna, a budget analyst for the center. People without insurance are less likely to seek care, and when they do, the cost to the health system is greater, she said.


http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/bus/stories/DN-Uninsured_27bus.ART.State.Edition2.4dce428.html
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« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2008, 11:12:14 AM »

What's heath care?
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« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2008, 11:12:39 AM »

Wow, that literally sounds like something from The Onion. (Literally. They once had something about the government's plan to reduce obesity by rededefining obesity by standards less Americans fall under.)
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« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2008, 11:13:31 AM »

"Save more money."
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« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2008, 11:13:35 AM »


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« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2008, 12:58:25 PM »


The title is misleading.  Goodman is not quoting McCain's heathcare system.  He's stating an opinion.
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« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2008, 02:45:36 PM »

McCain can't conceive of not having a job or health insurance or several houses.
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« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2008, 02:49:35 PM »

Wow, that literally sounds like something from The Onion. (Literally. They once had something about the government's plan to reduce obesity by rededefining obesity by standards less Americans fall under.)
This is standard procedure for the American government. If they can't throw a tax break or subsidy at an economic problem, they just change how they 'measure' it. It's how they've handled unemployment figures and, IIRC, inflation too since the '80s.
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« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2008, 03:47:27 PM »

Wow, that literally sounds like something from The Onion. (Literally. They once had something about the government's plan to reduce obesity by rededefining obesity by standards less Americans fall under.)
This is standard procedure for the American government. If they can't throw a tax break or subsidy at an economic problem, they just change how they 'measure' it. It's how they've handled unemployment figures and, IIRC, inflation too since the '80s.

This is a fascinating topic.

Yes, the government has changed the way it has measured inflation since the 1980s and the new methodology is downward-biased compared to the old one. And of course this is convenient for politicians because many governmental benefits and economic reports are indexed to inflation. Notably this makes things easier for the Fed because it allows them to keep interest rates relatively lower. In 1989, the business cycle peak of the 1980s the maximum rate was 9.8%, and bottomed at 2.9% in 1992. In 2000, after the introduction of the new inflation measures, the peak was 6.5% and bottomed at 1% in 2003. In 2007, a third peak was at 5.25%. Alan Greenspan had lobbied heavily for the new measures during the Bush Sr. administration; his predecessor, Volcker, had come under heavy -personal- attack, including by many ordinary people who said he had destroyed their livelihoods, during the 1982 recession after being forced to increase interest rates to record highs in order to meet inflation targets.

Nonetheless (and I disagree with the source quoted below here), you cannot say that the new method is worse than the old one. The new method is probably slightly better. If a 100 MHz Pentium costs $800 in 1993 and a 350 MHz Pentium costs $800 in 1998, according to the old method there was no improvement in standard of living, which is unrealistic.

All that you can really say is that pre-1996 inflation rates cannot be compared to post-1996 inflation rates. If anything, pre-1996 inflation rates should be judged as reported too high, rather than vice-versa:

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« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2008, 04:11:12 PM »

mccain voters have good health insurance. so why should he cared about that nonsense?

he needs to work on getting those folks a tax cut!
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