Selection: Santorum?

[Keystone Phil]

Let me enjoy the final hours that I have left to float these rumors, guys. 

Santorum matches Biden in every way - http://townhall.com/Columnists/RichardOlivastro/2008/08/27/selecting_rick_santorum_checkmates_biden

[Keystone Phil]

phil, i thought you were a mccain supporter?

why do you want him to lose?

Haha, the dislike for this guy is really overstated.

By the way, for all the geniuses that make the jokes about him swinging PA, I've never argued that Santorum would even help him here, let alone be the deciding factor in McCain's favor.

[Keystone Phil]

What does Santorum add to the ticket?

He'd totally satisfy any wary conservatives. He's young. He's a tough, talented debater.

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Well, his ideology is also misunderstood. He got booted in a bad year by a man with a legendary name. I don't doubt that he was personally unpopular that year regardless of national politics and whoever was running against him. Is he as unpopular as people think? No, I don't believe so.

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No because Daschle added hardly anything to the ticket.

[Keystone Phil]

phil, santorum compared homosexuality to having sex with dogs.

mccain doesnt want to go there.

In addition Santorum would by default unify the democratic and liberal base.

Santorum doesn't irritate the Democratic voters that McCain still has a chance with.

[Keystone Phil]

phil, santorum compared homosexuality to having sex with dogs.

mccain doesnt want to go there.

In addition Santorum would by default unify the democratic and liberal base.

Santorum doesn't irritate the Democratic voters that McCain still has a chance with.

Really?? The only democratic voters Mccain has a chance with are older women and they are pro-abortion rights. Also Mccain has a chance to do relatively well with gays but yeah with Santorum..lololol

Uh, what? I'm talking about white, blue collar, Catholic voters.

And since when are older women "Pro Abortion rights?"

You really do fail to understand so many simple concepts.

[Keystone Phil]

phil, santorum compared homosexuality to having sex with dogs.

mccain doesnt want to go there.

In addition Santorum would by default unify the democratic and liberal base.

Santorum doesn't irritate the Democratic voters that McCain still has a chance with.

Really?? The only democratic voters Mccain has a chance with are older women and they are pro-abortion rights. Also Mccain has a chance to do relatively well with gays but yeah with Santorum..lololol

And since when are older women "Pro Abortion rights?"

Trust me Hillary voters are pro-abortion/women's rights. Those who aren't already vote republican.

Yay for simplistic thinking! I'm sure every Hillary supporter especially in states like Kentucky, West Virginia, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, etc. are 100% Pro Choice/"Women's rights."

[Keystone Phil]

Uh, what? I'm talking about white, blue collar, Catholic voters.

You said it, not me. Exactly how did Ricky doo do amongst these voters in 06'?

Just because he didn't win them (again, consider his opponent) doesn't mean he doesn't have sway with them. McCain-Santorum vs. Obama-Biden would be nothing like Santorum vs. Casey. Obama-Biden doesn't have the type of appeal that the Casey name has with white, blue collar, Catholic voters.

[Keystone Phil]

While I disagree that this voting block we've argued over is as organized as you've made them out to be, when you lose an election by 17+ points, it stands to reason you've alienated just about every voting block there is. Don't get me wrong; I wouldn't have expected Rick to beat Casey but I would've figured he'd come closer than 17+points.

I think Santorum would be disaster for McCain amongst these voters.

I really have no idea how you can believe that "white, blue collar, Catholic voters" aren't a major, organized group especially in a state like PA. I really don't understand that. But, hey, whatever.

I never said they were 100% pro choice dumbass.

Oh, ok! So the comment about them being Pro Choice or actually voting Republican meant what exactly?

 

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I'm not expecting to win Hillary's original base (her personal fan club). However, plenty of blue collar, populist types that would have been huge for Edwards ended up going for her over Obama. They might not be the Hillary fanatics but they consider themselves more loyal to Hillary than Obama. Right now, a lot of them don't have a candidate to back. Let's see what happens.

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Ok, great!