Should Obama name Hillary as his secretary of state before the election?
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« on: September 01, 2008, 12:04:55 PM »

To counter the Palin choice. It would be ridiculous if the McCain campaign called it a gimmick to get Hillary supporters.
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« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2008, 12:05:49 PM »

Absolutely not.  Hillary isn't even a good fit for the position.
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« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2008, 12:06:39 PM »

Why in god's name would she want that job?   No power there.  Madam Majority Leader is her next step.....Reid will be history soon.
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« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2008, 12:09:32 PM »

Absolutely not.  Hillary isn't even a good fit for the position.
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« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2008, 12:11:34 PM »

Hell no. He should work on beginning to ruin Hillary's political career and give her the boot in 2012.
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« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2008, 12:12:09 PM »

How about secretary of defense? I think her supporters would be happier with Hillary in the Obama adminstration than Palin as vice president. Neither of are them are going to President anyways.
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« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2008, 12:21:58 PM »

Note to everyone -  Hillary does not want to be in an Obama administration.....period.  Obama doesn't want Hillary in an Obama administration....period.  Name me 1 thing she gains being in an Obama administration?

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« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2008, 01:48:17 PM »

Isn't it illegal to name cabinet positions before you're elected?
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« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2008, 05:27:34 PM »

Idiots.
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« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2008, 05:31:04 PM »

Absolutely not.  Hillary isn't even a good fit for the position.

Shows how much I know Tongue
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« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2008, 05:34:12 PM »

Why? For once you were correct.
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« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2008, 05:35:22 PM »


He still named her Secretary of State, though; just later on.
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« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2008, 05:36:18 PM »


Careful, son.  Perhaps I should direct your attention to US Code Title 18 Sec. 599:

"Whoever, being a candidate, directly or indirectly promises or pledges the appointment, or the use of his influence or support for the appointment of any person to any public or private position or employment, for the purpose of procuring support in his candidacy shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if the violation was willful, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both."
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« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2008, 05:36:50 PM »

You were correct that he absolutely shouldn't name her as secretary of state, and that she is not a good fit for the position. Wink
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« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2008, 05:37:41 PM »

You were correct that he absolutely shouldn't name her as secretary of state, and that she is not a good fit for the position. Wink

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« Reply #15 on: November 30, 2008, 05:40:55 PM »

Actually, it would have been pretty funny if he had picked Hillary as SoS before the election, just to see a major party nominee being led away in handcuffs.
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« Reply #16 on: November 30, 2008, 05:44:23 PM »

Actually, it would have been pretty funny if he had picked Hillary as SoS before the election, just to see a major party nominee being led away in handcuffs.

Yeah, but it wouldn't have been enforced.
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« Reply #17 on: November 30, 2008, 05:48:41 PM »

Actually, it would have been pretty funny if he had picked Hillary as SoS before the election, just to see a major party nominee being led away in handcuffs.

Yeah, but it wouldn't have been enforced.

Likely correct, but it still provides the reason why no Cabinet offices are ever announced before the election.  I'm surprised so few people understand this.
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« Reply #18 on: November 30, 2008, 05:49:15 PM »

Actually, it would have been pretty funny if he had picked Hillary as SoS before the election, just to see a major party nominee being led away in handcuffs.

Yeah, but it wouldn't have been enforced.

Likely correct, but it still provides the reason why no Cabinet offices are ever announced before the election.  I'm surprised so few people understand this.

I always figured it was just bad policy, in case an appointment turns off voters.
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« Reply #19 on: November 30, 2008, 05:55:27 PM »


Careful, son.  Perhaps I should direct your attention to US Code Title 18 Sec. 599:

"Whoever, being a candidate, directly or indirectly promises or pledges the appointment, or the use of his influence or support for the appointment of any person to any public or private position or employment, for the purpose of procuring support in his candidacy shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if the violation was willful, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both."

WHAT if he had said "he might"??
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« Reply #20 on: November 30, 2008, 09:29:24 PM »

You were correct that he absolutely shouldn't name her as secretary of state, and that she is not a good fit for the position. Wink

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Some prominent foreign policy folks disagree:

European Union foreign policy chief Javier Solana
: "I think it would be very well taken if that is the case, at the end of the day," said Solana when asked how he thought European diplomats would react if President-elect Barack Obama chose her to head the State Department.

"She is capable, with experience. She is well known," he added. "Nothing seems to be negative."

Ambassador Swanee Hunt of Harvard’s Kennedy School: “She and I have worked together with representatives from probably 50 different countries, in war zones, and there is this extraordinary warmth about her that makes her connect with people so quickly – then she has also all of this understanding and smarts,” says Ambassador Hunt. “It’s a striking combination.”

Lawrence Korb, Director of National Security Studies at the Council on Foreign Relations: She “really does understand” the world and is a “quick learner,” he says. He recalls a 2002 meeting with her soon after he returned from a fact-finding trip to Iraq.

“She was really on top of the game, but what surprised me was how much she knew about lots of other defense issues,” says Mr. Korb, a former Pentagon official in the Reagan administration. “We ended up not only talking about Iraq, but defense transformation [and] the history of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. [She has] really quite a remarkable understanding of things that I’ve spent my life working on.”
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« Reply #21 on: November 30, 2008, 09:31:25 PM »

I just can't wait until all this nonsense is done with tomorrow.


....Hopefully.
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