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JSojourner
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« on: September 09, 2008, 03:58:38 PM »
« edited: September 09, 2008, 04:00:19 PM by JSojourner »

What similarities if any are there? I keep hearing '88 being thrown around as a close match to this year. Two things I can thing of that would make it close : coming out of a previous controversial eight years and having a relatively unknown GOP VP pick who got attacked out of the gate.

Similarity --  Experienced, war hero leading the GOP ticket chooses a far right extremist beloved by the Talibagelicals as a running mate.

Difference -- The running mate for the GOP this time around is not an incompetent boob.

Similarity --  The Democrats nominate a mainstream liberal with little experience to head the ticket.  And a running mate who is highly regarded by both parties (or was, as most Republicans conveniently forget their admiration of Democrats in election years).

Difference --  The 1988 D nominee was a white guy, despite the funny name.  He somehow managed to win West Virginia.  The 2008 nominee is an uppity elitist coon African American who couldn't win West Virginia if the other ticket was Stalin/Lenin.

Similarity -- Both Republican Presidential nominees were once moderates but caved in to the demands and manipulations of the religious right. 

Difference --  When the first Bush was elected, he very subtly began to push back against the extremists in his party and set a center-right course, rather than hard right.  He took some flak but nothing like what John McCain will face.  The far right media machine is very well oiled now.

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JSojourner
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« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2008, 11:21:52 AM »



Similarity --  The Democrats nominate a mainstream liberal with little experience to head the ticket.  And a running mate who is highly regarded by both parties (or was, as most Republicans conveniently forget their admiration of Democrats in election years).

Difference --  The 1988 D nominee was a white guy, despite the funny name.  He somehow managed to win West Virginia.  The 2008 nominee is an uppity elitist coon African American who couldn't win West Virginia if the other ticket was Stalin/Lenin.


Actually no.  An SNL commercial parody ended with the tag line "Vote for Bush, he''s whiter."

I would call Dukakis experienced and call Obama as representing the left of the Democratic Party.

I would also question if Palin is that conservative, as opposed to libertarian.





And your point is?
Libertarian?

Yes, even on some social issues, she tends to say, "that's up to the voters."

That's not my definition of libertarian Smiley


That is indicative of someone not willing to impose her personal views on the electorate.

She wants to criminalize abortion, J.J.  No matter how much Ron Paul defines himself as Libertarian, that particular view is NOT Libertarian.  Ditto, Palin.

The conversation I wish the media would have with Palin is about what punishment she would prescribe for having or performing an abortion.  Perhaps that is where her Libertarianism comes into play?  Leave it up to the states?  So if Oklahoma wants to execute them...and if Vermont wants to fine them a penny...it's all good?

What are her views on drug legalization?  Warning labels on movies and music?  Taxes on oil companies? 

I'm not seeing a Libertarian here.  Just a traditional, far right conservative Republican.
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