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« on: September 10, 2004, 04:33:14 pm »

I have decided to make a topic of profound concern to me my maiden piece of legislation. I have decided to introduce a bill to stem the recent tide of assault on reproductive rights from the administration:

It shall be the stated policy of the Forum that:
a) funds for the United Nations Fund for Population Activities (UNFPA) shall be restored to their FY 2001 level.
b) no organization receiving federal funding for family planning services domestically or abroad shall be prohibited from mentioning the full range of reproductive options, including abortion, to their clientele on pain of federal support.
c) no funds shall be made available through the CHIP program for the care of zygotes, blastocysts, embryos, or fetuses as described by regulation as an "unborn child".
d) no law shall be construed to punish someone for an attack on a pregnant woman in such a way as to treat the act against the zygote, blastocyst, embryo, or fetus as a separate offense.
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« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2004, 07:01:52 pm »

NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO!
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« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2004, 02:18:15 am »

Yea
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« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2004, 07:31:24 am »

Hmmm, the bill isn't as bad as I expected.  I might vote for it, but migrendel, could you elaborate on article a?

and also, migrendel, you need to vote in the PPT election
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« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2004, 09:18:33 am »

Several years ago, the Bush administration withdrew $34 million in funding for contraceptive services abroad. Section A would reverse that decision and restore the funding.
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« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2004, 09:00:08 pm »

Since the debate has begun to lag, I put forward a motion to bring this bill to a vote.
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« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2004, 11:12:40 pm »

Nay
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« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2004, 01:59:48 am »

Several years ago, the Bush administration withdrew $34 million in funding for contraceptive services abroad. Section A would reverse that decision and restore the funding.


Actually, that was his first official act in office.  I was down in DC that day for the Nation Life March.  That announcement made me very happy.
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« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2004, 03:26:43 am »

I will need some further time to consider this. It is important that we stop AIDS in the third world, and the best way besides abstinence in contraception.

I believe that if we continued to fund programmes teaching abstinene before contraception, but still funded contraceptives, then I would certainly vote for it.

Maybe we can use some of the surplus monmey from the education reform bill to fund the education in the third world? Wink
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« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2004, 09:00:20 am »

This bill is not nearly as liberal is some of you may make it out to be.  I may vote for it.
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« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2004, 09:10:58 am »

There are quite a few other acts of the administration in this area I find to be disturbing. I focused on the most problematic, particularly the first two.

You have to wonder about George. The first thing he does is take away money for contraception abroad. It seems his top priority is depriving the poor of family planning services.
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« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2004, 12:48:45 pm »


You have to wonder about George. The first thing he does is take away money for contraception abroad. It seems his top priority is depriving the poor of family planning services.


[sarcasm]Really!!!!!  How dare he!?!?[/sarcasm]
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« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2004, 01:29:46 pm »

I believe that if we continued to fund programmes teaching abstinene before contraception, but still funded contraceptives, then I would certainly vote for it.

Stop psychically stealing my ideas Cheesy

Here in MN we teach abstinance as the only 100% effective contraceptive, and it seems to work OK.
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« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2004, 02:52:06 pm »

I see no reason why we need to provide support for abstinence programs when we can spend the money more wisely on providing family planning services. You're not helping your case, supersoulty. If Bush actually does believe this, he can be educated, but if he's doing this to appease his base, then he doesn't deserve to be president. Anyone who plays upon the ignorance of those so burdened by the dogma of faith is just not anyone I could ever respect.
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« Reply #14 on: September 13, 2004, 05:55:04 pm »

Interesting article on abstinence teaching vs. safe sex teaching:

http://www.monbiot.com/archives/2004/05/11/waging-war-with-the-virgin-soldiers/
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« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2004, 06:41:46 pm »

Interesting article on abstinence teaching vs. safe sex teaching:

http://www.monbiot.com/archives/2004/05/11/waging-war-with-the-virgin-soldiers/

They say abstinence like it's a dirty word.
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« Reply #16 on: September 15, 2004, 07:41:53 am »

Interesting article on abstinence teaching vs. safe sex teaching:

http://www.monbiot.com/archives/2004/05/11/waging-war-with-the-virgin-soldiers/

Ok, that is one of the most hate-filled articles I've ever read, and you call it intereting...
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« Reply #17 on: September 15, 2004, 08:32:34 pm »

Interesting article on abstinence teaching vs. safe sex teaching:

http://www.monbiot.com/archives/2004/05/11/waging-war-with-the-virgin-soldiers/

Ok, that is one of the most hate-filled articles I've ever read, and you call it intereting...
It's also full of quantitative facts on safe-sex teaching vs. abstinence teaching. But oh no, he is angry so it doesn't count.
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« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2004, 08:44:31 pm »

Fact is the only 100% birth control is abstinence. If you can't keep your legs closed and you aren't responsible enough to purchase your own birth control, it's YOUR fault and you should be responsible for YOUR actions. Not the child you create.
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« Reply #19 on: September 15, 2004, 09:38:07 pm »

Interesting article on abstinence teaching vs. safe sex teaching:

http://www.monbiot.com/archives/2004/05/11/waging-war-with-the-virgin-soldiers/

Ok, that is one of the most hate-filled articles I've ever read, and you call it intereting...
It's also full of quantitative facts on safe-sex teaching vs. abstinence teaching. But oh no, he is angry so it doesn't count.
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Well, seeing that he seems to think that abstinance is an evil, immoral, horrid thing, it's rather stupid.

And it insults me >P
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« Reply #20 on: September 16, 2004, 01:26:18 am »

Fact is the only 100% birth control is abstinence. If you can't keep your legs closed and you aren't responsible enough to purchase your own birth control, it's YOUR fault and you should be responsible for YOUR actions. Not the child you create.

Wait until you get older kid!
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« Reply #21 on: September 16, 2004, 12:00:16 pm »

Fact is the only 100% birth control is abstinence. If you can't keep your legs closed and you aren't responsible enough to purchase your own birth control, it's YOUR fault and you should be responsible for YOUR actions. Not the child you create.

Wait until you get older kid!

Oh, my God. The argument of the trully desperate.
"Oh, I have no arguemtsn, but I can't admit I'm wrong, I must be right because I'm older!"
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« Reply #22 on: September 16, 2004, 02:15:04 pm »

Fact is the only 100% birth control is abstinence. If you can't keep your legs closed and you aren't responsible enough to purchase your own birth control, it's YOUR fault and you should be responsible for YOUR actions. Not the child you create.

Wait until you get older kid!

Oh, my God. The argument of the trully desperate.
"Oh, I have no arguemtsn, but I can't admit I'm wrong, I must be right because I'm older!"

I'll elabortate on that one.  Yes, I see the need for abortions in some cases.  Again it's on a case by case basis and I do not feel government should decide.
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« Reply #23 on: September 16, 2004, 02:57:49 pm »

As fascinated as I am by ILV's declaration of offense and dubya2004's illicit sexual description, I would really like to hear the opinions of my fellow and sister senators. After all, those are the opinions that will matter when this comes up for a vote. By the way, when will we vote on it?
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« Reply #24 on: September 16, 2004, 03:16:32 pm »

As fascinated as I am by ILV's declaration of offense and dubya2004's illicit sexual description, I would really like to hear the opinions of my fellow and sister senators. After all, those are the opinions that will matter when this comes up for a vote. By the way, when will we vote on it?

When Harry (PPT) announces it - it should be one week after first being proposed.
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