All-Proportional Senate Constitutional Amendment (Failed)

[Associate Justice PiT]

Yeah. jumped the gun on that a bit. My Bad .

Possibly

I still call on Lewis to not waste the senate's time with this bill.  It has at least 4 confirmed votes against

     I find it curious though that Torie voted against the motion to table.

[Хahar 🤔]

Yeah. jumped the gun on that a bit. My Bad .

Possibly

I still call on Lewis to not waste the senate's time with this bill.  It has at least 4 confirmed votes against

     I find it curious though that Torie voted against the motion to table.

He opposes it, but believes it's worth debating. Or so I gather.

[Torie]

The truth is that I made a mistake in my vote. Confession is good for the soul.

[Bacon King]

To be honest, I'm pretty hesitant about this bill but I will be voting aye because I think the public should have their say.

[minionofmidas]

The truth is that I made a mistake in my vote. Confession is good for the soul.

Figured so, actually. Didn't really matter though.

[minionofmidas]

So, Bacon, you want to write something up to make all seats elected at the same time?

[minionofmidas]

It doesn't seem like there is much room for compromise, is there?

[Associate Justice PiT]

It doesn't seem like there is much room for compromise, is there?

     The obvious compromise (half regional, half at-large) is already in effect. So I guess you're right, there isn't a lot of room for it.

[DownWithTheLeft]

It doesn't seem like there is much room for compromise, is there?

There is, its called ending districts and having half and half.  You are just being plain greedy

[Meeker]

I've got to agree with DWTL. A compromise was worked out months ago. A good compromise, I might add.

[Bacon King]

So, Bacon, you want to write something up to make all seats elected at the same time?

No, my questions were merely out of curiousity, and I got the answers I wanted.

[CultureKing]

I've got to agree with DWTL. A compromise was worked out months ago. A good compromise, I might add.

agreed

[minionofmidas]

That was hardly a compromise - it was a first step, and it was fought tooth and claw by some. I guess there's some people who voted for it as a compromise, though.

[Јas]

That was hardly a compromise - it was a first step, and it was fought tooth and claw by some. I guess there's some people who voted for it as a compromise, though.

^^^

[minionofmidas]

No one's ever commented on the exact provisions of my Amendment.

[DownWithTheLeft]

No one's ever commented on the exact provisions of my Amendment.

Alright: They suck

[Sensei]

I supported the end of districts wholeheartedly, but I cannot allow the end of regional senate seats to happen.

[Хahar 🤔]

I supported the end of districts wholeheartedly, but I cannot allow the end of regional senate seats to happen.

Why can't you?

[Sensei]

I supported the end of districts wholeheartedly, but I cannot allow the end of regional senate seats to happen.

Why can't you?

It would basically strike a death blow to regions. And it would make the game less fun. If this happens, soon enough regions will cease to exist entirely, and someone here is going to concoct an at-large "Council of Governors" or something. The current system just isn't broken. If we had badly contested elections last time, it has a chance of picking up in the next cycle. For Example, everyone wrote the Southeast off as dead, but then it suddenly got moving again (and tried to secede).

[Хahar 🤔]

And regional elections are usually boring.

That said, a Council of Governors, consisting of all 5 Governors, could do wonders if given some power.

[Torie]

And regional elections are usually boring.

That said, a Council of Governors, consisting of all 5 Governors, could do wonders if given some power.

A council of governors to make mischief, and increase tension between the regions and the Fed seems to have some promise. A structure to make it work, and increase lawsuits, etc, needs to have some thought.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     They would need some power to cause mischief indeed. Maybe if a majority of Governors choose to do so, they can veto a bill without allowing for an override?

[minionofmidas]

Damn. Should have posted something in here yesterday.

Moving for a final vote, please vote aye, nay or abstain.

Aye.

[Хahar 🤔]

The more I think about it, the more I like a Council of Governors as an upper house, similar to the old Reichsrat. Members of either house would be able to propose legislation, but it would proceed through the Senate first, and the Council would only be able to veto legislation. The veto could be overriden by a two-thirds majority in the Senate.

[DownWithTheLeft]

Hmm...,  NAY