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« Reply #75 on: October 14, 2008, 10:09:08 pm »

Something that I see happening is that after four years of a President Barack Obama, an angry GOP base I think will want someone "pure" who they don't have have any major doubts about. So I don't think Romney or Huckabee would really benefit from such a scenario.

With that said, John Thune seems like somebody who would fit that profile.

The possibility of Tim Pawlenty have piqued my interest, though I'm not sure about his chances.

Given the history of losing VP candidates being nominated four years after their initial defeat, Sarah Palin would be well-advised to sit out 2012, to allow chance for his image to heal.

I'm with the consensus that Bobby Jindal is someone who could be a serious contender down the line, but I would also agree that unless Obama looks beatable he probably wont run. And given his age, he can afford to wait.

At the moment, I guess I would say Thune, with Pawlenty maybe having an outside chance. 
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« Reply #76 on: October 15, 2008, 02:36:18 am »

All depends on how Obama does if* elected.

If things reach a bottom in the first part of 09 and turn around in late 2010 then chances is that obama will win in 2012.

Obama with 60% approval rating vs Palin  in 2012 = 1972 for the democrats.
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« Reply #77 on: October 15, 2008, 02:37:36 am »


Obama with 60% approval rating vs Palin  in 2012 = 1972 for the democrats.

What part of, the Democrats can't demographically win 49 states, don't you understand?
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« Reply #78 on: October 15, 2008, 02:46:51 am »


Obama with 60% approval rating vs Palin  in 2012 = 1972 for the democrats.

What part of, the Democrats can't demographically win 49 states, don't you understand?

Considering it is Palin  and the country is getting younger It could happen.  That old conservative base is getting up there and  most will be looking for caskets soon.

Ok, I will give You Alaska, MS, AL and TN and other small electoral vote states. = thats still a 1972 type landlslide.


Palin is like the gop's version of McGovern.
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« Reply #79 on: October 15, 2008, 02:49:07 am »


Obama with 60% approval rating vs Palin  in 2012 = 1972 for the democrats.

What part of, the Democrats can't demographically win 49 states, don't you understand?

Considering it is Palin  and the country is getting younger It could happen.  That old conservative base is getting up there and  most will be looking for caskets soon.

Ok, I will give You Alaska, MS, AL and TN and other small electoral vote states. = thats still a 1972 type landlslide.


Palin is like the gop's version of McGovern.



You way overestimate the socialist movement in this country.
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« Reply #80 on: October 15, 2008, 05:28:43 am »

Something that I see happening is that after four years of a President Barack Obama, an angry GOP base I think will want someone "pure" who they don't have have any major doubts about. So I don't think Romney or Huckabee would really benefit from such a scenario.

With that said, John Thune seems like somebody who would fit that profile.

The possibility of Tim Pawlenty have piqued my interest, though I'm not sure about his chances.

Given the history of losing VP candidates being nominated four years after their initial defeat, Sarah Palin would be well-advised to sit out 2012, to allow chance for his image to heal.

I'm with the consensus that Bobby Jindal is someone who could be a serious contender down the line, but I would also agree that unless Obama looks beatable he probably wont run. And given his age, he can afford to wait.

At the moment, I guess I would say Thune, with Pawlenty maybe having an outside chance. 

I largely agree (Thune, Pawlenty as only an outsider, Jindal but eventually not in 2012). But Romney will want to run and he will have big means.
And don't forget Mark Sanford who would fit this trend among GOP base for 2012, IF (a big IF, it seems) he decides he can keep on being a politician after all.

I still don't understand why people still think Huck will be candidate again.
The way he campaigned (so "specific") won't let him an opportunity. Unless he wants to be GOP's Jesse Jackson.
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« Reply #81 on: October 15, 2008, 08:30:50 am »

I'd say Bobby Jindal or Sarah Palin.  If they pitt Romney or Huckabee up against President Obama, they cannot win.
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« Reply #82 on: October 15, 2008, 08:39:31 am »

You way overestimate the socialist movement in this country.

This was a better line before a Republican President nationalized the country's largest insurer, took equity stakes in all of its major banks, and gave bail-out loans to the auto companies. Whatever shape future elections take, they won't be driven by bogus debates framed by Rush Limbaugh monologues from 1996 about "socialism."

Our economy includes socialist aspects and will in the future. Hello, Medicare. Most people don't have a black-and-white view of this.
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« Reply #83 on: October 15, 2008, 12:26:35 pm »

I'd say Bobby Jindal or Sarah Palin.  If they pitt Romney or Huckabee up against President Obama, they cannot win.

Assuming a McCain loss...

I'm guessing Palin/Jindal.  (Palin as prez.)

She has 4 years to build a resume in AK, as does Jindal in LA.  They will run against Pelosi/Reid and the Obama who would not break from his own party on certain issues (spending, taxes).  They will be on best behavior for 4 years; the Troopergate mess is already over with.
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« Reply #84 on: October 15, 2008, 12:51:22 pm »

Assuming Santorum doesn't run and a few other things fall into place, I've found my candidate.
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« Reply #85 on: October 15, 2008, 12:53:03 pm »

Assuming Santorum doesn't run and a few other things fall into place, I've found my candidate.

And their name is?
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« Reply #86 on: October 15, 2008, 12:57:11 pm »

If Sarah Palin runs for president in 2012, it will be a truly fascinating Republican primary to watch. 
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« Reply #87 on: October 15, 2008, 12:58:38 pm »

Assuming Santorum doesn't run and a few other things fall into place, I've found my candidate.

And their name is?

I plan on making comments about him or her later. I really don't want to do it so soon considering this race isn't even over yet. It's annoying to get so far ahead of ourselves. That being said, I've mentioned his or her name to a few people and I'm convinced that this person is the future of our party (again, assuming that some things fall into place).

I've dropped a few hints elsewhere on the forum. Do some searching and take a guess.  Wink
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« Reply #88 on: October 15, 2008, 01:17:44 pm »

I think he's talking about Bobby Jindahl.
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« Reply #89 on: October 15, 2008, 01:43:57 pm »

He's talking about Dino Rossi. Hell, we were talking about it in this very thread. Sheesh. Tongue
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« Reply #90 on: October 15, 2008, 02:03:52 pm »

He's talking about Dino Rossi. Hell, we were talking about it in this very thread. Sheesh. Tongue

Gregoire will squeek out another win against Rossi.
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« Reply #91 on: October 15, 2008, 05:46:38 pm »

I'd say Bobby Jindal or Sarah Palin.

I repeat:

Why do people think Jindal is going to run in 2012?  He'll only be 41 years old, and have the one term as governor.  Wouldn't it make a lot more sense for him to wait until 2016 or later?  Yes, yes, I know Obama ran in 2008 with just 4 years worth of experience in the Senate, but that was an unusual case, and Obama didn't have to give up his Senate seat to do it.

In Jindal's case, he'd probably have to give up on reelection if he wants to run for president, since the Louisiana governors' race is in Nov. 2011, while the 2012 presidential primaries will begin in Jan. 2012.  It would seem to be kind of impractical to be campaigning in Louisiana for governor while simultaneously campaigning in Iowa for president.
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« Reply #92 on: October 15, 2008, 05:52:32 pm »

I'd say Bobby Jindal or Sarah Palin.

I repeat:

Why do people think Jindal is going to run in 2012?  He'll only be 41 years old, and have the one term as governor.  Wouldn't it make a lot more sense for him to wait until 2016 or later?  Yes, yes, I know Obama ran in 2008 with just 4 years worth of experience in the Senate, but that was an unusual case, and Obama didn't have to give up his Senate seat to do it.

In Jindal's case, he'd probably have to give up on reelection if he wants to run for president, since the Louisiana governors' race is in Nov. 2011, while the 2012 presidential primaries will begin in Jan. 2012.  It would seem to be kind of impractical to be campaigning in Louisiana for governor while simultaneously campaigning in Iowa for president.


That tells me it's more likely he'll be a VP option.  I think the RP has to take a long, long look at him.

If nothing else, it's a brown guy on the ticket.  Innoculates the party a bit.

(Not saying race/ethnicity should be relevant.  Only acknowledging that it is.)
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« Reply #93 on: October 15, 2008, 07:31:28 pm »

I think he's talking about Bobby Jindahl.

Wrong

...and that's all I'm saying for now.  Wink
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« Reply #94 on: October 16, 2008, 12:44:31 am »

Crist would be a good pick for '12 at this point. However, he may be to soft spoken for the presidential level.
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« Reply #95 on: October 16, 2008, 12:50:40 am »

Anyone who isn't Sarah Palin or Bobby Jindal. If the Republican Party nominated either one of those Governors in 2012 against President Obama, they would be annihilated. This coming from the man who believes that Obama won't be that all of a popular President come 2012. Hehe.
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« Reply #96 on: October 16, 2008, 01:02:36 am »

Crist would be a good pick for '12 at this point. However, he may be to soft spoken for the presidential level.

I think the gay rumors would subside. He's married now, so I don't see why it would be a big issue. It's been a while since I've lived in FL, but my grandparents love Crist. What's your opinion of him, statesrights?
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« Reply #97 on: October 16, 2008, 01:19:24 am »

Crist would be a good pick for '12 at this point. However, he may be to soft spoken for the presidential level.

I think the gay rumors would subside. He's married now, so I don't see why it would be a big issue. It's been a while since I've lived in FL, but my grandparents love Crist. What's your opinion of him, statesrights?

Pretty moderate Republican. He has moments where I go "Yeah for Crist", moments like today, when he speed up contracts for roadwork in the state to help put people back to work. Then he has some really dumb moments, like when he totally flipped off our legislature and signed Vegas style gambling into law with the Seminoles. He just totally skipped the legislative process and did it anyways. Apparently the Federal govt was going to let them have their way anyhow so he just jumped in on it so that the state wouldn't lose out on its' share of the money.
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« Reply #98 on: October 16, 2008, 01:44:37 am »

Assuming Santorum doesn't run and a few other things fall into place, I've found my candidate.

And their name is?

I plan on making comments about him or her later. I really don't want to do it so soon considering this race isn't even over yet. It's annoying to get so far ahead of ourselves. That being said, I've mentioned his or her name to a few people and I'm convinced that this person is the future of our party (again, assuming that some things fall into place).

I've dropped a few hints elsewhere on the forum. Do some searching and take a guess.  Wink

You know, Phil, just because the guy is a greasy dago doesn't mean you should feel compelled to vote for him.  The guy's qualifications are limited at best, not to mention that he has to actually win something first.  And even then, voting for a one term governor because he is a young, charismatic Italian makes you no better than people who vote Obama for similar reasons.
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« Reply #99 on: October 16, 2008, 10:16:14 am »

Assuming Santorum doesn't run and a few other things fall into place, I've found my candidate.

And their name is?

I plan on making comments about him or her later. I really don't want to do it so soon considering this race isn't even over yet. It's annoying to get so far ahead of ourselves. That being said, I've mentioned his or her name to a few people and I'm convinced that this person is the future of our party (again, assuming that some things fall into place).

I've dropped a few hints elsewhere on the forum. Do some searching and take a guess.  Wink

You know, Phil, just because the guy is a greasy dago doesn't mean you should feel compelled to vote for him.  The guy's qualifications are limited at best, not to mention that he has to actually win something first.  And even then, voting for a one term governor because he is a young, charismatic Italian makes you no better than people who vote Obama for similar reasons.

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Right, Super. That's why I'm possibly supporting the person you mentioned. That was totally uncalled for. Totally. Grow up, dude, and lay off the bottle before posting (oh, and that wasn't an ethnic attack either. Just the truth).

By the way, the most offensive part is not how you think Rossi is just some "greasy dago" but that you think I pick my candidates based on ethnicity. That's pretty assinine and goes to show how little you know about me. I assume you have supported McCain and Toomey in the past because of their ethnic background. You know you shouldn't do that, Super! Roll Eyes
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