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« Reply #50 on: October 12, 2008, 06:03:25 pm »

Obama wins a mandate to govern.

He has a Democratic House of Representatives.

He has a Democratic Senate.

Since he now has no excuses for failure in what he has promised..........

He is now expected to, among many, many other things

resolve the economic crisis

resolve the Iraq war while at the same time keeping America safe from terrorists

clean up Washington with a reform package and reduce the power of lobbyists

take immediate action to implement a program to reduce greenhouse gas emissions by 80% by 2050

He will now have to deliver change you can count on and change we need

If President Obama, backed by majorities in the House of Representatives and Senate, is not able to deliver, we could be looking at President Romney being sworn into office as President of the United States in January, 2013.
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« Reply #51 on: October 12, 2008, 06:10:43 pm »

President Romney being sworn into office as President of the United States in January, 2013.

LOL.  That slimeball will never be President.
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« Reply #52 on: October 12, 2008, 06:13:27 pm »

President Romney being sworn into office as President of the United States in January, 2013.

LOL.  That slimeball will never be President.

Oh, good comeback.  I'm so impressed.
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« Reply #53 on: October 12, 2008, 06:14:37 pm »

President Romney being sworn into office as President of the United States in January, 2013.

LOL.  That slimeball will never be President.

Oh, good comeback.  I'm so impressed.

I'm just saying, that slimeball you support will never be President.
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« Reply #54 on: October 12, 2008, 07:01:51 pm »
« Edited: October 12, 2008, 07:32:51 pm by Yogi »

Anyway, here’s my prediction:

Obama will win 51%-47%.  He will take Florida, Virginia, and the three southwestern states.  Democrats will win Senate races in Virginia, New Mexico, Colorado, Oregon, New Hampshire, North Carolina, and Minnesota.  The Democrats will have a 57-43 majority as Joe Lieberman will caucus with the Republicans after Democrats strip him of his committee spots.  The House majority will be 250-185.

ACORN will be revealed to have committed massive voter fraud.  The new administration will refuse to appoint a special prosecutor and block their US Attorneys from investigating.  This will become a huge problem for Obama.  It will taint his administration from day one and he will be forced to reverse himself and ask the Attorney General to investigate.

Obama’s inaugural address will be incredibly boring.  It will still be hailed by the press as the greatest speech ever given.

Artur Davis will be the Attorney General.  Larry Summers will be Secretary of the Treasury.  Richard Danzig will be Secretary of Defense.  John  Kerry will be Secretary of State.

Sonia Sotomayor, Harold Koh, and David Tatel will be nominated to the Supreme Court to replace Ruth Bader Ginsburg, David Souter, and John Paul Stevens.  Anthony Kennedy remains the key swing vote on the divided Court.

John McCain, Joe Lieberman, and Hillary Clinton will join to screw Obama a la the gang of 14 at least once.

Joe Biden will say something stupid at least once.

The Democrats’ first big error will be trying to bring back the fairness doctrine.  This will backfire big time on them.  They will try to institute card check laws.  This will backfire big time as well.

There will be at least three significant corruption scandals involving Obama administration officials.

Obama will fulfill his pledge to meet controversial foreign leaders in his first year not by traveling abroad, but by meeting with them at the opening of the UN session in late 2009.  This will prove a clever gambit.  The meetings with foreign leaders will be hailed by all in the media.

Obama will not meet with Ahmadenijad.  Mehdi Karroubi will defeat Ahmadenijad for President in the June ’09 elections, letting Obama off the hook on meeting with Ahmadenijad.

When Iran tests its first nuclear bomb in 2010, Obama’s meeting with Iran’s leaders will become his “mission accomplished” moment.  His Policy of meeting with Iran’s leaders will be seen in retrospect as a massive failure.

Russia will grow stronger and try to finish off Georgia and then will move on to the Ukraine.

Obama will leave 40,000 troops in Iraq until the end of his term.  This will cause problems with the anti-war movement.  It will not cost him with the public at large, since violence will fade away almost entirely.

The troop surge in Afghanistan will fail to reduce violence.

Obama will have to stop his incursions into Pakistan when Pakistan threatens to shut down the Khyber Pass if the incursions continue.

He will get the Senate to ratify the Kyoto Protocol.  This will harm the economy even more.  People won’t care that it is good for the environment.

Obama will be loved by the world at the beginning.  At the end, he will only be loved in Western Europe.  His stance on trade will cost him popularity in most other places.

Obama will try to pass national health care.  He will be blocked by a filibuster by the remaining 41 Republican Senators.

Obama will try to nationalize the banking industry.  He will be filibustered again.

Obama will drop his middle class tax cut.  He will pass his energy plan and his stimulus package by attaching them to the 2009 budget he submits in February.  His stimulus plan will not stimulate the economy and high energy prices will continue to make a mockery of Obama’s energy plan.

The budget deficit will be $700 billion in Obama’s first year.  It will rise to $800 billion in year two and three.  It will fall to $700 billion in year four.  The deficit will cripple Obama’s domestic agenda and his Presidency.

Obama will not try to pass his tax cut.  He will let the Bush tax cuts expire, rather than repeal them (Think Jefferson with the Alien and Sedition Acts).

The recession will be deep in 2009.  When the credit crunch clears up in late 2009, GDP will grow again but so will inflation.  Unemployment will peak at 9% in 2010.

In 2010, the weak economy, high inflation, high unemployment, and huge deficits will lead to a significant loss of seats for Democrats in the House and three seats in the Senate.  Republicans won’t quite take back the House, but they will shrink the Democrat margin significantly.  Ken Salazar will lose to Bill Owens.  Byron Dorgan will retire and John Hoeven will succeed him.  Harry Reid will be crushed for re-election by 20 points.

The economy will keep struggling through 2011.

It will struggle again in 2012.

Obama’s hope rhetoric will stop being inspiring and start sounding delusional.

Network anchors will continue to love Obama.  The White House Press corps will come to hate him the way the beat reporters on his campaign have come to dislike him.

The weak economy, the continuing problems in Afghanistan, the ACORN scandal, and Iran’s bomb will all but ensure a Republican victory in 2012.

Sarah Palin will be the early frontrunner for the Republican nomination.  She will not be the nominee.  The Republicans will nominate Bobby Jindal for President.  He will choose Charlie Crist as his running mate.  He will win the election by a large margin.  Republicans will retake the House and Senate.
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« Reply #55 on: October 12, 2008, 07:11:12 pm »

Obama’s inaugural address will be incredibly boring.  It will still be hailed by the press as the greatest speech ever given.

That was the only part of that post that wasn't BS.
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« Reply #56 on: October 12, 2008, 07:33:35 pm »

Obama’s inaugural address will be incredibly boring.  It will still be hailed by the press as the greatest speech ever given.

That was the only part of that post that wasn't BS.

Aw, you didn't even like my Supreme Court picks?
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« Reply #57 on: October 12, 2008, 07:59:49 pm »

Well, it looks like his followers cannot conceive a scenario in which he will be unsuccessful. Even I will admit I don't see McCain doing that well in his first term given the current state of things.

Agree.  If it is McCain, I think the term is quiet and sluggish.  Feels like ice cold water and little substantive change.
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« Reply #58 on: October 12, 2008, 08:00:35 pm »

Good foreign policy, bad everything else.  Might get some traction on curbing spending, but with a partisan bent to the prioritization.

^^^^^^^^

I like Obama, but I think he's too tied to his party to be truly effect in the ways he might want.  Change, yes, but change bastardized by the Harry Reids and Nancy Pelosis of the world.

^^^^^^^^

Have I been posting under another login in my sleep?

And you're from Maryland, too.  Bizarro.  *high fives*
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« Reply #59 on: October 12, 2008, 08:03:59 pm »

President Romney being sworn into office as President of the United States in January, 2013.

LOL.  That slimeball will never be President.

Agree.
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« Reply #60 on: October 12, 2008, 08:34:55 pm »

Anyway, here’s my prediction:

Obama will win 51%-47%.  He will take Florida, Virginia, and the three southwestern states.  Democrats will win Senate races in Virginia, New Mexico, Colorado, Oregon, New Hampshire, North Carolina, and Minnesota.  The Democrats will have a 57-43 majority as Joe Lieberman will caucus with the Republicans after Democrats strip him of his committee spots.  The House majority will be 250-185.

ACORN will be revealed to have committed massive voter fraud.  The new administration will refuse to appoint a special prosecutor and block their US Attorneys from investigating.  This will become a huge problem for Obama.  It will taint his administration from day one and he will be forced to reverse himself and ask the Attorney General to investigate.

Obama’s inaugural address will be incredibly boring.  It will still be hailed by the press as the greatest speech ever given.

Artur Davis will be the Attorney General.  Larry Summers will be Secretary of the Treasury.  Richard Danzig will be Secretary of Defense.  John  Kerry will be Secretary of State.

Sonia Sotomayor, Harold Koh, and David Tatel will be nominated to the Supreme Court to replace Ruth Bader Ginsburg, David Souter, and John Paul Stevens.  Anthony Kennedy remains the key swing vote on the divided Court.

John McCain, Joe Lieberman, and Hillary Clinton will join to screw Obama a la the gang of 14 at least once.

Joe Biden will say something stupid at least once.

The Democrats’ first big error will be trying to bring back the fairness doctrine.  This will backfire big time on them.  They will try to institute card check laws.  This will backfire big time as well.

There will be at least three significant corruption scandals involving Obama administration officials.

Obama will fulfill his pledge to meet controversial foreign leaders in his first year not by traveling abroad, but by meeting with them at the opening of the UN session in late 2009.  This will prove a clever gambit.  The meetings with foreign leaders will be hailed by all in the media.

Obama will not meet with Ahmadenijad.  Mehdi Karroubi will defeat Ahmadenijad for President in the June ’09 elections, letting Obama off the hook on meeting with Ahmadenijad.

When Iran tests its first nuclear bomb in 2010, Obama’s meeting with Iran’s leaders will become his “mission accomplished” moment.  His Policy of meeting with Iran’s leaders will be seen in retrospect as a massive failure.

Russia will grow stronger and try to finish off Georgia and then will move on to the Ukraine.

Obama will leave 40,000 troops in Iraq until the end of his term.  This will cause problems with the anti-war movement.  It will not cost him with the public at large, since violence will fade away almost entirely.

The troop surge in Afghanistan will fail to reduce violence.

Obama will have to stop his incursions into Pakistan when Pakistan threatens to shut down the Khyber Pass if the incursions continue.

He will get the Senate to ratify the Kyoto Protocol.  This will harm the economy even more.  People won’t care that it is good for the environment.

Obama will be loved by the world at the beginning.  At the end, he will only be loved in Western Europe.  His stance on trade will cost him popularity in most other places.

Obama will try to pass national health care.  He will be blocked by a filibuster by the remaining 41 Republican Senators.

Obama will try to nationalize the banking industry.  He will be filibustered again.

Obama will drop his middle class tax cut.  He will pass his energy plan and his stimulus package by attaching them to the 2009 budget he submits in February.  His stimulus plan will not stimulate the economy and high energy prices will continue to make a mockery of Obama’s energy plan.

The budget deficit will be $700 billion in Obama’s first year.  It will rise to $800 billion in year two and three.  It will fall to $700 billion in year four.  The deficit will cripple Obama’s domestic agenda and his Presidency.

Obama will not try to pass his tax cut.  He will let the Bush tax cuts expire, rather than repeal them (Think Jefferson with the Alien and Sedition Acts).

The recession will be deep in 2009.  When the credit crunch clears up in late 2009, GDP will grow again but so will inflation.  Unemployment will peak at 9% in 2010.

In 2010, the weak economy, high inflation, high unemployment, and huge deficits will lead to a significant loss of seats for Democrats in the House and three seats in the Senate.  Republicans won’t quite take back the House, but they will shrink the Democrat margin significantly.  Ken Salazar will lose to Bill Owens.  Byron Dorgan will retire and John Hoeven will succeed him.  Harry Reid will be crushed for re-election by 20 points.


Salazar wont lose.  Colorado is becomming increasingly unwinnable for Republicans.  I also doubt Owens would run after he wouldnt run this year for Allard's seat.  In Nevada, the only guy who could beat Reid,  Rep. Jon Porter, is likely to be defeated this year.  Overall we are probably looking at a 1978/1990 style normal midterm were the party in power loses a small, but significant number of seats(a couple in the Senate and about a dozen in the House). 
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« Reply #61 on: October 12, 2008, 08:47:01 pm »

Salazar wont lose.  Colorado is becomming increasingly unwinnable for Republicans.  I also doubt Owens would run after he wouldnt run this year for Allard's seat.  In Nevada, the only guy who could beat Reid,  Rep. Jon Porter, is likely to be defeated this year.  Overall we are probably looking at a 1978/1990 style normal midterm were the party in power loses a small, but significant number of seats(a couple in the Senate and about a dozen in the House). 

Harry Reid's approval rating is in the 30s.  He is very unpopular and is a shoo-in to lose if he continues to be seen as a partisan water carrier.

Colorado is not becoming "unwinnable" for Republicans.  That is just a ridiculous thing to say.  Why, because its a swing state its now unwinnable for us?  Give me a break.
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« Reply #62 on: October 12, 2008, 08:51:47 pm »

Salazar wont lose.  Colorado is becomming increasingly unwinnable for Republicans.  I also doubt Owens would run after he wouldnt run this year for Allard's seat.  In Nevada, the only guy who could beat Reid,  Rep. Jon Porter, is likely to be defeated this year.  Overall we are probably looking at a 1978/1990 style normal midterm were the party in power loses a small, but significant number of seats(a couple in the Senate and about a dozen in the House). 

Harry Reid's approval rating is in the 30s.  He is very unpopular and is a shoo-in to lose if he continues to be seen as a partisan water carrier.

Colorado is not becoming "unwinnable" for Republicans.  That is just a ridiculous thing to say.  Why, because its a swing state its now unwinnable for us?  Give me a break.

If the state was still a swing state, McCain would not be 10 points down there. 
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« Reply #63 on: October 12, 2008, 08:55:09 pm »

Hillary Clinton might challenge Obama for the 2012 nomination in that scenario, Ford. If his approval ratings were that sucky, he'd almost certainly receive at least one if not several high profile challengers.
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« Reply #64 on: October 12, 2008, 09:35:28 pm »

By 2010 he'll replace Jackson on the $20 and his head will also grace a special edition £2 coin and a 1 euro coin.

He'll make it onto Mount Rushmore by the end of his third year. The Republicans will be up in arms, not because he's going up there, but because Ronald Reagon isn't as well. They'll be rightly told to f*** off.

By 2016 they'll rename the month of September after him and give it 31 days to match July and August, with October losing a day. They'll be also moves to rename the plant Neptune after him but the Russians won't be so keen on that idea.

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« Reply #65 on: October 12, 2008, 09:40:58 pm »

Salazar wont lose.  Colorado is becomming increasingly unwinnable for Republicans.  I also doubt Owens would run after he wouldnt run this year for Allard's seat.  In Nevada, the only guy who could beat Reid,  Rep. Jon Porter, is likely to be defeated this year.  Overall we are probably looking at a 1978/1990 style normal midterm were the party in power loses a small, but significant number of seats(a couple in the Senate and about a dozen in the House). 

Harry Reid's approval rating is in the 30s.  He is very unpopular and is a shoo-in to lose if he continues to be seen as a partisan water carrier.

Colorado is not becoming "unwinnable" for Republicans.  That is just a ridiculous thing to say.  Why, because its a swing state its now unwinnable for us?  Give me a break.

If the state was still a swing state, McCain would not be 10 points down there. 

He's down 10 in a PPP poll.  Find me a real poll where he's down 10.

The RCP average has McCain down 4 in Colorado and down 7 nationally, so he looks to be outperforming his national numbers in Colorado.  He'll still lose the state and the election, but to say Colorado is becoming "unwinnable" is just way off the mark.
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« Reply #66 on: October 12, 2008, 11:20:02 pm »

Change, yes, but change bastardized by the Harry Reids and Nancy Pelosis of the world.

If he wins enough of an electoral mandate, I could imagine Obama maneuvering (behind the scenes, of course) for Durbin to move up to the top spot.

Not gonna happen.

Pelosi needs to be pushed aside, though. She's not the right person to lead the House.
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« Reply #67 on: October 13, 2008, 02:38:51 am »

So, what kind of Presidency do you think he'll have?

I'm interested both in what his supporters expect from his and what his detractors fear from him.

Top 10 things in no particular order:

#1) get federal funding for stem cell research passed
#2) elect two liberal supreme court justices to replace the two liberal expectant outgoing justices (Ginsberg and Kennedy)
#3) timetable for Iraq
#4) get into serious discussions about socialized medicine
#5) get into serious discussions to further move along alternative energy
#6) get into serious discussions to further move along alternate fueled cars (sorry, but 35mpg by 2015 is NOT enough)
#7) hopefully get rid of that ban on partial-birth abortions
#8) pass more regulation of the markets
#9) more domestic spending
#10) implementing his proposed tax plan (tax cuts for the poor, tax increases for the excessively rich)
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« Reply #68 on: October 13, 2008, 02:44:01 am »
« Edited: October 13, 2008, 02:55:16 am by H.A.A.R.P. »

I don't know. He needs to be elected first.

but let me save many the time and effort of coming to this thread and reading it:

Republicans: It'll flipping suck, a 2nd Jimmy Carter! HATEHATEHATE

Democrats: Oh it would be the most amazing Presidency America has ever seen. YAYAYAY
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« Reply #69 on: October 13, 2008, 02:53:05 am »

So, what kind of Presidency do you think he'll have?

I'm interested both in what his supporters expect from his and what his detractors fear from him.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Carter
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« Reply #70 on: October 13, 2008, 02:57:40 am »

So, what kind of Presidency do you think he'll have?

I'm interested both in what his supporters expect from his and what his detractors fear from him.


#7) hopefully get rid of that ban on partial-birth abortions


You know, try as hard as I might, I have never been able to understand the affinity of some of the Left for the notion of riping a living human being who has a pretty decent chance of being self-sustaining, out of the body of another who is quite obviously pregnant at this point, cracking open thier skull and sucking out their brain, all while the infant is kicking and screaming. 

Perhaps you could enlighten me. 

Have you ever seen one of these performed?
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« Reply #71 on: October 13, 2008, 03:01:30 am »

So, what kind of Presidency do you think he'll have?

I'm interested both in what his supporters expect from his and what his detractors fear from him.


#7) hopefully get rid of that ban on partial-birth abortions


You know, try as hard as I might, I have never been able to understand the affinity of some of the Left for the notion of riping a living human being who has a pretty decent chance of being self-sustaining, out of the body of another who is quite obviously pregnant at this point, cracking open thier skull and sucking out their brain, all while the infant is kicking and screaming. 

Perhaps you could enlighten me. 

Have you ever seen one of these performed?

Its not so much that I have any feelings towards how abortions are performed, its just that if you are going to do something do it all or none...not somewhere in the middle.
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« Reply #72 on: October 13, 2008, 03:02:21 am »

So, what kind of Presidency do you think he'll have?

I'm interested both in what his supporters expect from his and what his detractors fear from him.


#7) hopefully get rid of that ban on partial-birth abortions


You know, try as hard as I might, I have never been able to understand the affinity of some of the Left for the notion of riping a living human being who has a pretty decent chance of being self-sustaining, out of the body of another who is quite obviously pregnant at this point, cracking open thier skull and sucking out their brain, all while the infant is kicking and screaming. 

Perhaps you could enlighten me. 

Have you ever seen one of these performed?

It shouldn't be the Government's choice as to who can or can't have an abortion. If A women feels like it needs to be done, that's her decision. Why do you feel like you need to refuse a woman's right to do what she wants with her life/body?

I guess I can ask the same thing for Gay Marriages, since I think it applies there too.
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« Reply #73 on: October 13, 2008, 03:12:53 am »

So, what kind of Presidency do you think he'll have?

I'm interested both in what his supporters expect from his and what his detractors fear from him.


#7) hopefully get rid of that ban on partial-birth abortions


You know, try as hard as I might, I have never been able to understand the affinity of some of the Left for the notion of riping a living human being who has a pretty decent chance of being self-sustaining, out of the body of another who is quite obviously pregnant at this point, cracking open thier skull and sucking out their brain, all while the infant is kicking and screaming. 

Perhaps you could enlighten me. 

Have you ever seen one of these performed?

It shouldn't be the Government's choice as to who can or can't have an abortion. If A women feels like it needs to be done, that's her decision. Why do you feel like you need to refuse a woman's right to do what she wants with her life/body?

I guess I can ask the same thing for Gay Marriages, since I think it applies there too.

First off, I'm not even talking about all abortion, I am talking about Partial Birth, in particular, so please don't retreat to those tired old lines about "right to choose" etc, etc, because in this case, it doesn't apply.  If you haven't made the choice by the time the child is viable, then that should be it, end of story.  If mommy has a problem with that then too fu(king bad.

When Bubba goes out and lynches a black man for sleeping with a white woman, we don't sit aroudn and invent excuses for why Bubba made that choice, and we certainly don't defend it.  We recongnize that someone took another functioning human life and ended it.

It shouldn't be the governments choice how I raise my kids, but if I beat them and lock them in a closet, then they... by which of course, I mean society and the law, ought to make it our business.  There are levels.  I am personally opposed to any and all abortions, but I can see arguments for keeping them legal... after six months, there are no excuses.
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« Reply #74 on: October 13, 2008, 03:16:49 am »

So, what kind of Presidency do you think he'll have?

I'm interested both in what his supporters expect from his and what his detractors fear from him.


#7) hopefully get rid of that ban on partial-birth abortions


You know, try as hard as I might, I have never been able to understand the affinity of some of the Left for the notion of riping a living human being who has a pretty decent chance of being self-sustaining, out of the body of another who is quite obviously pregnant at this point, cracking open thier skull and sucking out their brain, all while the infant is kicking and screaming. 

Perhaps you could enlighten me. 

Have you ever seen one of these performed?

Its not so much that I have any feelings towards how abortions are performed, its just that if you are going to do something do it all or none...not somewhere in the middle.

Well, that is an absolutely brilliant philosophy of government that would go a long way towards explaining how civilization got this far... I think civility, compromise, thoughtfulness and restraint were getting pretty tired anyway, right?
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