Why is Obama coming to PA

[J. J.]

O.K., Pennsylvania is an important state.  Obama lost it in primary.

We have a number of polls showing Obama up, some by double digits. 

Why did he spend the day in Phila?  He's obviously not going after leaners; there are not that many in Phila.  He's not going to the rest of the state.  He could be trying to drive up Phila turnout, but why does he have to drive it up?

[they don't love you like i love you]

Why not? He has to go somewhere, and he's up by double digits or close in all the important states. It's not like he has any reason to try to boost himself by a few points in Idaho or anything.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

Because it's a big state where McCain is spending money.  He shouldn't take it for granted, like McCain has in Florida.

[ChrisFromNJ]

Because it's a huge prize on Election Day, and despite the fact he is comfortably ahead, he cannot take it for granted.

21 electoral voters and its history as a swing state is why Obama is there.

[J. J.]

Because it's a huge prize on Election Day, and despite the fact he is comfortably ahead, he cannot take it for granted.

21 electoral voters and its history as a swing state is why Obama is there.

If the polling is right, he doesn't need to and can go to FL or VA instead.

[ChrisFromNJ]

Because it's a huge prize on Election Day, and despite the fact he is comfortably ahead, he cannot take it for granted.

21 electoral voters and its history as a swing state is why Obama is there.

If the polling is right, he doesn't need to and can go to FL or VA instead.

I get what you are trying to do here.

You are trying to convince yourself that the state is close, the polls are wrong, and that is why he is back in Pennsylvania.

You are entitled to your opinion, J.J. Perhaps Pennsylvania is close. But there have been numerous polls, from both sides of the aisle, that have shown PA a double digit race at this point.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Could be he's hoping to generate some coattails.  There are a few House races in the Philly area that he could have an effect on.  More likely, he's playing defense in case some unexpected event makes this a close race again.  He's at the point in the polls where gilding the lily won't gain him anything.  Obama needs to guard against a reversal of fortune and see about helping down ticket races where feasible. he can do both somewhat in the Phily area.

[Keystone Phil]

Could be he's hoping to generate some coattails.  There are a few House races in the Philly area that he could have an effect on.

Those seats are basically decided. The Dems don't have to worry about the 7th, 8th or 13th (and the 1st and 2nd are obviously two of the safest Dem seats in the nation). The only GOP seat in the area is PA 6 and the Dems are not getting it with their current candidate.

[J. J.]

Because it's a huge prize on Election Day, and despite the fact he is comfortably ahead, he cannot take it for granted.

21 electoral voters and its history as a swing state is why Obama is there.

If the polling is right, he doesn't need to and can go to FL or VA instead.

I get what you are trying to do here.

You are trying to convince yourself that the state is close, the polls are wrong, and that is why he is back in Pennsylvania.

You are entitled to your opinion, J.J. Perhaps Pennsylvania is close. But there have been numerous polls, from both sides of the aisle, that have shown PA a double digit race at this point.

No, I've predicted PA for Obama.  I'd say the same thing about Iowa and McCain; he's losing Iowa, I've predicted an Iowa loss, but he's still going there.

I note that you have not attempted to answer my question.

Ernest.  In the area where he was you have PA-1, (Brady), PA-2 (Fattah), and PA-13 (Schwartz).  They do not need coattails.  

[Sam Spade]

From my Philly peeps, I have heard Obama's been running advertising in Philly all day and night.  About 10-1 the McCain ads.

[J. J.]

From my Philly peeps, I have heard Obama's been running advertising in Philly all day and night.  About 10-1 the McCain ads.

Yes, he's blasting them, probably more than McCain.  I wouldn't say 10 to 1.

[Sam Spade]

From my Philly peeps, I have heard Obama's been running advertising in Philly all day and night.  About 10-1 the McCain ads.

Yes, he's blasting them, probably more than McCain.  I wouldn't say 10 to 1.

Well, what would you say?  I only know what I do through my two friends who live in the area (who happen to both be Republicans, oddly enough).

[J. J.]

From my Philly peeps, I have heard Obama's been running advertising in Philly all day and night.  About 10-1 the McCain ads.

Yes, he's blasting them, probably more than McCain.  I wouldn't say 10 to 1.

Well, what would you say?  I only know what I do through my two friends who live in the area (who happen to both be Republicans, oddly enough).

Maybe 3-5 to 1.  Ten to one would be me not remembering a McCain commercial.

[Keystone Phil]

From my Philly peeps, I have heard Obama's been running advertising in Philly all day and night.  About 10-1 the McCain ads.

Yes, he's blasting them, probably more than McCain.  I wouldn't say 10 to 1.

Well, what would you say?  I only know what I do through my two friends who live in the area (who happen to both be Republicans, oddly enough).

Maybe 3-5 to 1.  Ten to one would be me not remembering a McCain commercial.

Agreed

[J. J.]

There are basically three questions:

1.  Why is Obama hitting PA?

2.  Why is McCain hitting Iowa?

3.  Why hasn't Obama released his September fund raising?

[TomC]

If the Ayres ads from McCain hurt, where, out of states that matter, would they hurt the most?

[J. J.]

If the Ayres ads from McCain hurt, where, out of states that matter, would they hurt the most?

That's hard.  OH, PA, maybe MI, WI, MN, and possibly IA.

[TomC]

If the Ayres ads from McCain hurt, where, out of states that matter, would they hurt the most?

That's hard.  OH, PA, maybe MI, WI, MN, and possibly IA.

That's why he's there.

[J. J.]

If the Ayres ads from McCain hurt, where, out of states that matter, would they hurt the most?

That's hard.  OH, PA, maybe MI, WI, MN, and possibly IA.

That's why he's there.

But we're not seeing any evidence that the Ayers ad has hurt in PA.

[Lunar]

Obama's defending Pennsylvania because it's McCain's number one target.  If McCain is going all-out to attempt to get every single possible undecided voters available in PA, Obama has to do SOME work to keep them. 

Pennsylvania isn't "safe Obama" obviously.  Otherwise Hillary, Biden, Palin and Obama wouldn't all be there right now.  But McCain is getting killed lately.

[Iosif]

He's just trying to rub it in.

[J. J.]

He's just trying to rub it in.

Then he loses. 

[Iosif]

He's just trying to rub it in.

Then he loses. 

No, no he doesn't. He wins. Big.

By double digits.

[J. J.]

He's just trying to rub it in.

Then he loses. 

No, no he doesn't. He wins. Big.

By double digits.

Every minute he spends in in PA, he can't be in another state.  Obama could get every vote in PA, or win by a margin of one vote, and he'd still only get 21 Electoral Votes.

You really don't get it, do you?

[Iosif]

He's just trying to rub it in.

Then he loses. 

No, no he doesn't. He wins. Big.

By double digits.

Every minute he spends in in PA, he can't be in another state.  Obama could get every vote in PA, or win by a margin of one vote, and he'd still only get 21 Electoral Votes.

You really don't get it, do you?

At this point I really want to call you a massive dull retard, but I won't after that warning I got from Dave.

He's already winning everywhere else, he's just trying to rub it in. Why run up the margains in VA and FL when you can win by 15% in PA and make some Republicans cry?

I'd be doing the same. Only I'd probably be campaigning in NY and CA as well. The race is over so you might as well have some fun.

But you keep telling yourself he's scared of losing PA. False hope is just a wonderful thing.