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« Reply #25 on: September 15, 2009, 08:10:34 PM »

What's that bit of territory west of PA?

That's the Connecticut Western Reserve. It wasn't ceded until 1800.
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« Reply #26 on: September 16, 2009, 05:15:32 AM »

Waiting for the following. Smiley
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« Reply #27 on: September 16, 2009, 06:37:48 AM »

Great updated, Xahar, keep it going Smiley
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« Reply #28 on: September 16, 2009, 08:06:48 AM »

I rarely wonder into this board at all, but this thread is excellent. I'll await the next installment!
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« Reply #29 on: September 16, 2009, 06:30:32 PM »

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« Reply #30 on: September 17, 2009, 07:36:50 PM »

6th Parliament: 1808-1809

During the campaign of 1808, Aaron Burr and other Northern Republicans took pains to distinguish themselves from the unpopular Jefferson Administration. On January 28, a weekly paper in Washington was set up, called the Nationalist. The paper was staunchly Burrite, and as it became the Burrite mouthpiece, so did its faction come to be called the Nationalists.

The Federalists gained seats they had lost in New England in the 1803 landslide, but their position was taken by the Nationalists everywhere else. This hurt the party most in New York, where a thriving organization had once existed. Now, however, all New York forces sided either with Burr or his nemesis, the old George Clinton.



Republican: 56 (-54)
Nationalist: 51
Federalist: 35 (+3)

Although the Republicans retained a slim plurality, the election results were clearly anti-Jefferson. The President's original plan was to keep Madison, knowing the large differences between the Francophile Nationalists and pro-English Federalists, but Burr saw through the plot and informed him that if Madison (and by extension, the Virginia group) was not removed from power, he would simply force a new election.

This was too much for Jefferson to swallow, and he flatly refused. After a near-crisis, it was agreed upon that Madison would stay, but most of the Republicans in the Cabinet would be replaced by Nationalists.

In 1808, Burr and Jefferson were nominated, as expected. Hamilton, sensing a more favorable climate, also ran.

StateHamiltonJeffersonBurrTotal
MA190019
NH4037
VT6006
RI4004
CT9009
NY001919
NJ0088
DE3003
PA002020
OH0033
MD33511
VA024024
KY0538
TN0505
NC012214
SC010010
GA0606
Total486563176

As no candidate was even close to a majority, the House of Commons was called upon to elect the President. On the first two ballots, too few states were able to give a majority vote to any candidate. Before the third ballot, the House agreed to consider a plurality vote in a state delegation as equivalent to a majority vote. On the third ballot, Burr received 7 votes, Jefferson 6, ad Hamilton 5. Before the fourth ballot, certain Nationalists let slip that they might vote for Hamilton if Burr were not elected. This claim has never been conclusively proven true or false (though it was probably a bluff, given the differences between the Federalists and Nationalists), but the very thought of a President Hamilton was enough for the Republicans to give their votes to Burr, who won on the fourth ballot by the count of 13 to 5.

Burr was sworn in as President on March 4, 1809. Judging that his popularity in the country was sufficient to avoid having to serve as junior partner to the Republicans, he dissolved the House of Commons soon after and called new elections.
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« Reply #31 on: September 17, 2009, 07:41:53 PM »

I love this timeline. It's well detailed and well planned.
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« Reply #32 on: September 22, 2009, 02:48:20 AM »

A superb timeline, cannot wait to see how this continues.
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« Reply #33 on: November 04, 2009, 09:27:53 PM »

Bump!
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« Reply #34 on: November 05, 2009, 02:34:11 PM »

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« Reply #35 on: November 05, 2009, 08:47:54 PM »

I'll get on this soon, don't worry. Smiley
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« Reply #36 on: November 05, 2009, 11:13:17 PM »

I'll get on this soon, don't worry. Smiley

K, were all wondering about the 7th Parliament and *shiver* President Burr.
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« Reply #37 on: December 18, 2009, 04:23:38 PM »
« Edited: December 18, 2009, 07:15:11 PM by Хahar »

Note: Henceforth, as the Presidency begins to decline in importance, I will no longer give state-by-state electoral vote totals for President.

7th Parliament: 1809-1816

Outwardly, little had changed since 1808. The 1809 elections were fought on the same grounds as the elections the previous year; the issues at hand remained the same. Nonetheless, the Republicans no longer had the machinery of government at their disposal, and prominent local personages began to move en masse to the Nationalists. As a result, the Nationalists won heavily, and Burr's agenda with it.



Nationalist: 70 (+19)
Republican: 38 (-18)
Federalist: 34 (-1)

Burr and the Nationalists, though barely lacking a formal majority in the Commons, had a working majority. Burr's next task was to split the Federalists, which he accomplished through a two-pronged measure. First, he pledged that he would adhere to strict neutrality in foreign affairs, and would keep open trade with both England and France unless attacked. This pleased many Anglophile Federalists, who worried about Burr's pro-French tendencies. Second, he made the Virginian ex-Federalist John Marshall the leader of his government. Although the Marshall government was occassionally defeated and on a few occasions denied supply, it was able to govern effectively throughout the parliamentary term. On the foreign policy front, neutrality was maintained between England and France, although the nature of British naval supremacy meant that Franco-American trade was less common and more often conducted through third parties.

The early 1810s were a period of general prosperity, and came to be remembered as a "golden age" of sorts later in the century. In 1812, Jefferson and Hamilton ran for President again, but Burr easily won, this time with an absolute majority. About midway through Burr's second term, calls began to dissolve Parliament and call for elections. Burr refused, arguing that there was no need for new elections in a time of prosperity; the Septennial Act 1715 only required that elections be held every seven years. It was fitting that the rivalry between Burr and Hamilton would end in this most apolitical of times; in December of 1814, Hamilton fell sick, and he died of tuberculosis on January 13, two days after his sixtieth birthday. Parliament was dissolved in early 1816 on the basis of effluxion of time.
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« Reply #38 on: December 18, 2009, 07:18:41 PM »

Presidents:

George Washington (F-VA): 1789-1793
John Adams (F-MA): 1793-1801
Thomas Jefferson (R-VA): 1801-1809
Aaron Burr (N-NY): 1809-

Prime Ministers:

John Adams (F-MA): 1789-1793
Alexander Hamilton (F-NY): 1793-1800
Aaron Burr (F-NY): 1800-1801
James Madison (R-VA): 1801-1809
John Marshall (N-VA): 1809-

Elections:

1791: (no parties)
1793: Federalist 56, Republican 49
1795: Federalist 62, Republican 44
1800: Republican 78, High Federalist 40, Low Federalist 24
1803: Republican 110, Federalist 32
1808: Republican 56, Nationalist 51, Federalist 35
1809: Nationalist 70, Republican 38, Federalist 34
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« Reply #39 on: December 18, 2009, 08:15:01 PM »

Finally it's back. I hope, if you are elected President, you don't forget your TL's like Leif.
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« Reply #40 on: December 19, 2009, 09:45:02 AM »


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« Reply #41 on: December 20, 2009, 06:44:35 PM »

Bump. Update sooner or later.
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« Reply #42 on: February 27, 2010, 01:20:06 AM »

At this rate, I should reach the present on January 5, 2020 (and, by then, I'll have a decade more to do).
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« Reply #43 on: February 27, 2010, 03:52:04 PM »

This is one of my favorites. Please... Please.... update...
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« Reply #44 on: February 27, 2010, 04:40:09 PM »
« Edited: February 27, 2010, 04:43:09 PM by Vosem »

Come on...I wanna know about the 8th Parliament!
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« Reply #45 on: February 27, 2010, 08:59:40 PM »

This is one of my favorites. Please... Please.... update...

I TOTALLY agree with this. Smiley
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« Reply #46 on: February 27, 2010, 10:33:05 PM »

Where are you, we need another update.
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« Reply #47 on: March 14, 2010, 06:54:12 PM »

Come on, Xahar! I want it to return!
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« Reply #48 on: March 15, 2010, 04:10:14 PM »

AN UPDATE IS DEMANDED.
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« Reply #49 on: March 15, 2010, 06:22:53 PM »

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