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Filuwaúrdjan
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« on: February 21, 2004, 03:49:48 PM »

See my comments on "Whats with states like OK and LA" and the one about the LA map in 1992.
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« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2004, 05:59:07 AM »

Don't be so sure... of anything.
Politics in the Deep South would be completely changed if more poor whites (who are overwhelmingly Democrats) who are registered to voted actually voted.
Hopefully this would be accompanied by a white-black coalition (not as far fetched as it seems. Jimmy Carter had one, but it died when he left politics Sad )
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« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2004, 06:13:08 AM »

In the Deep South this is probably the case.
In the Upper South the Civil War confuses things and in Texas... don't ask.

I'm still hoping for Jimmy Carter II...
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« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2004, 06:35:47 AM »

I didn't mean it literally...
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« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2004, 12:01:54 PM »

BTW, Mississippi's delegation in the US House is split 2-2 in Dems and GOP, and that's with the GOP-slanted gerrymandering.

I remember now... Gene Taylor (D) represents what is normally the most GOP part of MS... ironic, eh?

BTW if MS had a fair map how many seats would each party have?
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« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2004, 03:37:56 PM »

That confirms what I had guessed the effects of gerrymandering Sad
Anyways the politics of Mississippi has always fascinated me.
Thanks for the info Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2004, 07:01:37 AM »

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Most local elections in the U.K are done like that...
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« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2004, 07:51:36 AM »

But with two or three member districts if I remember right, so it's not an absolute catastrophe...

Usually. But not in Birmingham... [shudders]

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Going into fantasy mode:
I'm going to make the Constitutionalist Party an affiliate of the Democratic Party in West Virginia (kinda like the Co-op party in the U.K and used to be common in the U.S when there were powerful third parties). That way I (er... I mean the Citizens of West Virginia) can have my (er... their) cake and eat it.

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« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2004, 05:25:00 AM »

Most of 'em are Democrats but this is not the same as saying they agree with all the views of various leading Democrats.
My guess is they are unhappy with the Dems views on social issues and the won't vote "for the Party of Lincoln"...
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« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2004, 05:43:17 AM »

I didn't actually deny that.
It's a failure of the DNC that people that used to be their hard core supporters have stopped voting for anyone at all.
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« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2004, 10:49:20 AM »

This is a bit off topic but... what is it with the DNC? Why is the organisation so abysmal?
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« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2004, 01:31:09 PM »

I know what it is... I'm just curious as to why it can't do it's job properly...
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« Reply #12 on: February 27, 2004, 01:49:10 PM »

Something worth a look: the CD map of MS for the 1980 election (on this site, but you need to be a member).
Compare it to the current map.
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« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2004, 05:15:58 AM »

CD 1: All counties north of (and including) Itawamba, Lee, Pontotoc, Lafayette, Yalobusha, Grenada, Tallahatchie, Coahoma.
CD 2: All counties south of CD 1, but north of (and including) Lowndes, Oktibbeha, Winston, Attala, Carroll, Leflore, Sunflower, Washington
CD 3: All counties south of CD 2, but north of (and including) Clarke, Jasper, Smith, Covington, Marion, Lawrence, Simpson, Rankin, Madison, Yazoo, Issaquena
CD 4: All counties west of but including Walthall, Lincoln, Copiah, Hinds and south of Hinds and Warren
CD 5: All other counties

Carter won 1, 2
Reagan won 3, 4, 5
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« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2004, 05:45:24 AM »

Yes... except for CD 4.
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