Juvenile Criminal Responsibility and Treatment Bill (Law'd)

[Torie]

Nay, for reasons previously stated. I hope someone was listening. I think I have the high ground here, for reasons that go beyond mere ideology.

[Јas]

Abstain

[Bacon King]

abstain

[CultureKing]

abstain

[Torie]

What is this abstain sh**t?  Just because The One could vote "present" more often than he bummed cigarettes and take the gold, doesn't mean that  you schmucks can. LOL.

[CultureKing]

To make Torie feel happy I'll take a position:

I change my vote to:
NAY

[Torie]

To make Torie feel happy I'll take a position:

I change my vote to:
NAY

Thanks. We've bonded! 

[minionofmidas]

This vote timed out on the 6th.

Sorry CultureKing - you changed your vote too late, meaning that we have a hilarious final vote count of:

Aye 2 (Lewis, Sensei)
Nay 1 (Torie)
Abstain (voted) 3 (Jas, Bacon, Culture)
Abstain (did not vote) 4 (Al, Meeker, Verily, Dwtl)

and that the amendment has passed.

Obviously Torie's perfectly free to introduce an amendment to undo this amendment, though.

[Torie]

This vote timed out on the 6th.

Sorry CultureKing - you changed your vote too late, meaning that we have a hilarious final vote count of:

Aye 2 (Lewis, Sensei)
Nay 1 (Torie)
Abstain (voted) 3 (Jas, Bacon, Culture)
Abstain (did not vote) 4 (Al, Meeker, Verily, Dwtl)

and that the amendment has passed.

Obviously Torie's perfectly free to introduce an amendment to undo this amendment, though.

Quite right. I move to amend the currently extant as amended section 1 to read as follows:

1. Persons under the age of 10 shall be subject to a separate system of justice known as the Juvenile Justice System. Persons subject to the Juvenile Justice System are referred to herein as “Juveniles.”

[Јas]

I move (per Article 4.3.3 of the OSPR) that Torie's amendment be brought to vote.

[minionofmidas]

I'm not in charge right now. Just have patience til monday.

[Јas]

I'm not in charge right now. Just have patience til monday.

Indeed, I'm quite aware.
It'd be nice though if we had a VP interested in doing more than just swearing himself into office though.

[minionofmidas]

Quite right. I move to amend the currently extant as amended section 1 to read as follows:

1. Persons under the age of 10 shall be subject to a separate system of justice known as the Juvenile Justice System. Persons subject to the Juvenile Justice System are referred to herein as “Juveniles.”

The vote is on the Amendment. Please vote aye, nay or abstain.


Nay.

[Јas]

Abstain

[AndrewTX]

Nay

[HappyWarrior]

Abstain

[Associate Justice PiT]

     Aye

[Sensei]

aye

[Torie]

Aye

[minionofmidas]

Current vote count

Aye 3 (PiT, Sensei, Torie)
Nay 2 (Lewis, Andrew)
abstain 2 (Jas, Happy)
yet to vote 2 (Al, Dwtl)
vacant 1

[minionofmidas]

The Amendment has passed.

Aye 3 (PiT, Sensei, Torie)
Nay 2 (Lewis, Andrew)
abstain (voted) 2 (Jas, Happy)
abstain (did not vote) 2 (Al, Dwtl)
vacant 1

[minionofmidas]

Final vote in a minute... just gotta assemble the current version of the bill first.

[minionofmidas]

Juvenile Criminal Responsibility and Treatment Act

For in all matters where criminal offenses are matters under the jurisdiction of the federal government of Atlasia:

1. Persons under the age of 10 shall be subject to a separate system of justice known as the Juvenile Justice System. Persons subject to the Juvenile Justice System are referred to herein as “Juveniles.”

2. Persons between the ages of 10 and 14 shall be subject to the Juvenile Justice System except where it is found by the court by clear and convincing evidence that, having taken into account the child’s age and level of maturity, the person in question did in fact have a substantial understanding of the gravity of the wrong associated with the commission of the offense.

3. The Juvenile Justice System shall involve a judge or a specially appointed master of the judge rather than a jury making a determination as to whether or not the Juvenile in question by clear and convincing evidence rather than beyond a reasonable doubt, and  with due regard for protecting the rights of the Juvenile to have a fair hearing and with representation of counsel, committed the offense of which the Juvenile is charged, and then with respect to  Juveniles found to have committed such offense, prescribing a program focused on  treatment and rehabilitation rather than punishment (“Prescribed Program of Treatment”) which however may involve some form of detention and restrictions on the  rights of movement and conduct of such Juvenile. The emphasis of the Prescribed Program of Treatment shall be on the protection of the Juvenile from influences detrimental to the Juvenile’s welfare, and causing the Juvenile to form the habits and conscience necessary to become a law abiding individual.

4. When the Juvenile reaches the age of majority, or when the term of the Juveniles Prescribed Program of Treatment expires, whichever is later, the Juvenile’s court record for all acts subject to the Juvenile Justice System shall be expunged.


Final vote. Please vote aye, nay or abstain.


Aye.

Still better than the status quo.

[HappyWarrior]

Aye

[Filuwaúrdjan]

aye