does Barack Obama believe in the divinity of Christ?

[© tweed]

does Barack Obama believe in the divinity of Christ?

[elcorazon]

awful thread

[Earth]

Where's the option for what difference does it make?

[Stranger in a strange land]

yes, and it's absolutely irrelevant to his ability to do his job as president.

[JSojourner]

yes, and it's absolutely irrelevant to his ability to do his job as president.

[RI]

yes, and it's absolutely irrelevant to his ability to do his job as president.

[elcorazon]

screw christ

[The Ex-Factor]

I think a better question would be whether he really gives a damn about gay marriage.

[J. J.]

I believe the church he belonged to did, so I would say yes.

[Josh/Devilman88]

yes, and it's absolutely irrelevant to his ability to do his job as president.

[Franzl]

yes, and it's absolutely irrelevant to his ability to do his job as president.

[Torie]

Off topic. It needs to be moved to the religion thread, where hopefully its death will be quiet and lonely.

[Iosif]

I hope not.

[Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home.]

only Obama can answer this question

[LanceMcSteel]

Barack is a very intelligent man, and thus no he doesn't believe in this mystical cosmic Jew character Americans always seem to be babbling about. However, he pretends to because most American's are too stupid and intolerant to vote for an atheist.

[The Mikado]

Yes.  I take him at his word. 

[angus]

awful thread

agreed.  at a minimum, it's one that is very inappropriately placed. 

moderator really should move this one out of this board.

[Beefalow and the Consumer]

If I'm trying to put out a fire, and someone offers to run and fetch buckets of water, I'm not going to give him a doctrinal quiz before letting him help me.

[© tweed]

why is this such a horrible thread?  I'm not trying to imply that he is a Muslim.  I just find his wording to be interesting when speaking of his religious background/affiliation...

I believed and still believe in the power of the African-American religious tradition to spur social change.


...which sounds to me as if he may view Christianity as a vehicle for social reform.  that isn't mutually exclusive with believing in the divinity of Christ, by any means, but it doesn't sound like he was "called" (as jmfcst claims to have been, for example).

[Eraserhead]

Don't know, don't really care, although it would be kind of neat if he didn't.

[angus]

why is this such a horrible thread?  I'm not trying to imply that he is a Muslim.  I just find his wording to be interesting when speaking of his religious background/affiliation...

I believed and still believe in the power of the African-American religious tradition to spur social change.


...which sounds to me as if he may view Christianity as a vehicle for social reform.  that isn't mutually exclusive with believing in the divinity of Christ, by any means, but it doesn't sound like he was "called" (as jmfcst claims to have been, for example).

"I'm not trying to imply that he's a muslim"  That's getting so old.  Reminds me of a Seinfeld episode.  "...not that there's anything wrong with that."  No one is claiming that you implied he's a muslim.  I certainly didn't.  And even if he is a Muslim, I have no problem with that.  The fact that it did occur to you to utter that statement, though, is a bit disconcerting, and adds to the weirdness of the thread.  But it was already weird before you typed that.

First, it doesn't belong in this board.  It would be great under "off-topic" stuff, or maybe even "general US discussion" (that's a stretch), but it certainly doesn't belong here.

Also, and more importantly, who can say whether Obama believes in the divinity of Christ?  Who can say whether any man believes in the divinity of Christ?  Who can say what another believes about anything?  And who cares?  Maybe you do, but it's a highly philosophical question--one that probably different sects of Christians have gone to war over, maybe when they're not busy fighting over whether it's legal to divorce the Queen or whether women can be altar boys, or whatever different sects of Christians fight over these days--but it's not a question that any of us can answer.  I suspect you already know all this, and are just looking for data--Some correlation between answers and demographic, as evidenced by the choices you offer--but it still doesn't belong in this board.  And that's my only objection.  But, like elcorazon, I also find it a bit awful, since it serves no practical purpose because it cannot be objectively answered by anyone other than one person, and that person is probably too busy to be posting here. 

It's like me putting up a poll, in this board, asking whether my dog is gay.  Because (1) none of you know whether my dog is gay, and (2) my dog's sexual orientation has nothing to do with the Presidential Election of 2008, and (3) so what if he's gay?, and (4) I wouldn't have a fucking dog.  Dogs are nasty.  I'm still amazed that there are people who let them live in their houses.  Bizarre.  I could understand it if this were 30,000 BC and we lived in a hut made of ivory mammoth tusks and a floor made of bear skins and pissed in our own soupbowls, and we were hunting mammoths in an ice-covered part of what is now the Crimean Penninsula, and we depended on the wolves to help us find, and kill, mammoths.  But I live in a suburb, with a well-manicured lawn that I don't want dug up and shat upon, and I have an electronic alarm system, I get my meat at a supermarket from a butcher, and I have the bright, glowing images on my television to keep me company.  So whether it's gay, straight or asexual, I still have no use for them.  And I certainly wouldn't want the filthy beasts pissing on my carpet and getting fleas on my bed.  That's all I'm saying.

[The Man From G.O.P.]

No, not that it matters.

[bgwah]

To be honest I think he's probably an atheist. It's not important though.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

He's a politician, not the pope... I don't care.

[Lief 🗽]

Yes. Obama is a black religious, you see.